Everyone talks about getting the wolves delisted but I’m not sure MN-WI-MI DNR or Governors actually want that. JMO
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Reef Whooligan wrote:</div>
Is human safety really a concern or are people just using any justification for better deer hunting?
The chances of being attacked or even killed by a wolf is extremely remote. You almost can’t even measure it. You have a much higher chance of winning the lottery, getting struck by lightning, or getting into a car accident on your way to the deer stand. Heck, you could live and hunt in wolf country for years on end and never even see one. I deer hunted for 25 years in wolf country in northern MN and never saw one.
Obviously deer hunters and livestock owners are going to complain. Wolves hunt deer, and in some cases they will prey on livestock when given a chance. Or domesticated pets.
I think most of us here would agree that there needs to be state management of wolves in MN, WI, and MI (which is considered the Great Lakes Region). And I have no doubt that there eventually will be with a lottery-drawn, quota based hunting and/or trapping season.
However, until they are removed from the Endangered Species List in the Great Lakes Region, all you can do is bark up a dead tree. Its not like the governor of Wisconsin can go to the president and a federal agency and just tell them to remove the animals from the list. Its federal law, which supercedes all state law. The US Fish & Wildlife has the authority to remove them, and they’ve tried twice, only to have it reversed in court. One of the primary reasons it has been reversed in court is that the judge has stated that the wolves “have not yet reclaimed their original territory that they had established prior to be placed on the ESL.” Well poop, of course they haven’t. They’re never going to re-establish all of that territory because its now been turned into urban environments and agriculture land. And their primary food source, buffalo, are not present in great numbers either anymore. So I don’t quite understand the logic behind that decision in court, but its how the system works in this country.
My suggestion is if you live in wolf country and you’re seriously worried about being attacked, stay inside. There is a far greater danger to a domestic dog than a person. BTW you can shoot a wolf if it poses an immediate threat to a person. Really no different than the cougar recently shot. If you feel a legitimate threat, shoot the animal, and call the authorities to report it. Explain what occurred. Based on the incident with the cougar, if you have grounds to stand on and are honest about it, they will accept it.
The governors of the Great Lakes states do have some say in this. But they choose not to. In October of 2010 Idaho governor Butch Otter told the feds they were done with them. No more monitoring, or investigating illegal kills. In May of 2011, the federal government permanently delisted them in Idaho and Montana and parts of Oregon, Washington and Utah.
The governors of Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota need to tell the feds we are done with them. No more investigating illegal kills, or doing population studies or spending money on them what so ever, until they get them delisted permanently. Basically do what Idaho did. Unfortunately until the 3 current governors of those states are voted out of office, it isn’t going to happen. And to the people that think delisting will happen if a person gets attacked, look at what the grizzlies are doing out west. Killing and injuring people every year and still nothing happens with them.
It’s been a crazy good year for the 4 raised beds I have. Canned 41 quarts of beans, 11 quarts beets, 14 quarts potatoes & 5 ice cream pails of refrigerator pickles. Will do some dill pickles with what are still coming. Onions did well and have a good amount of those put up. Around a five gallon pail of red potatoes left after canning. Lots of beets and carrots still in the ground and the pole beans reflowered and are kicking out 5-6 quarts a week and are still loaded with fresh blossoms. I even managed to get a dozen nice tomatoes off the one plant I have. I have always had nice looking plants but they always developed blossom end rot until this year. Some of what I gathered on Saturday. It’s taken a lot of water from the hose to keep things going. But it sure feels good when you carry the boxes of jars down to put away for this winter.
I’m not sure it’s the same with beans but tomatoes don’t pollinate themselves very well when it’s 85 and humid. The pollen is clumpy instead of light and powdery. Might have just gone through a spell where the flowers didn’t pollinate too well in which case they’ll probably pick back up.
Thing is I’m not seeing a lot of new flowers.
Last night the damn beetles were thick on them. So I picked everything I could find, and sprayed them with Sevin again. Maybe this will force them to push out some more flowers.
Hopefully mine pick back up some. I planted them inside 5 foot high woven wire and anywhere the leaves poked outside the wire, the rabbits did chew. I have since relocated a few of them.
Planted pole beans this year. Blue Lake variety. They went gangbusters for about a week, but are really slacking off now. Is this typical? I thought they produced right up until frost. There are some new ones coming along, but not many.
How often do you apply the spray. Seems after about 4 days they are back with a vengeance. I think the label says 7 days.
If you get the new boots, pick up a couple rolls of Leukotape. If you even think you’re getting a hot spot, stop and cover it with a piece. Really saved me last year when I was breaking in my new boots. I went with a few pairs of Darn Tough and some Farm to Feet socks. These seemed to help in prevention of blisters as well.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>buckybadger wrote:</div>
I don’t use it a lot, so maybe I just haven’t go there yet, but I haven’t had any issue with my Gerber Vital version of this. I haven’t used the Havalon personally but heard it’s easier to change blades on the Gerber too.
How do the blades stay in your Gerber Vital? Mine fall out about twice a minute when I’m trying to skin with it.
Crush up saltine crackers or ritz crackers real fine and put on a plate. Beat an egg or two on another plate. Slice steaks 3/8-1/2″ thick. Dip in egg. Then in crackers. Do the same for all steaks. Get a pan hot. Add some olive oil and a good pad of butter. Once it melts throw the steaks in with a little room around each. Cook 3-4 minutes a side. Once blood starts to seep out of the crackers I usually flip. Take it out once it starts to seep through again. These will be on the rare side, so leave in a bit longer if you desire. If you like to smoke, leave in a good length piece. Coat with what you like for a rub and put it on until internal temp of your liking.
Awesome bull Caleb!
UGH!! That’s a major bummer! Hoping you can salvage part of your trip at least!
Nice! I am up in that neck of the woods usually every weekend of October running bear. We stay right near Marenisco and hunt out from there. FR 7100 is about as far east as we get.
Good luck to you guys out with your kids! Post some pics and stories!
Congrats! What area of the U.P.? Pretty laid back, friendly people up there from my experience!
As soon as he asked about a truck pic I was like oh crap! We never took one! Dang it! As far as deer, we saw quite a few muley does from camp and one buck while out hunting. According to the guides though, the deer herd is really down on both quality and quantity. Pronghorn were around and we saw some from camp and on the trip back to our vehicles. The guy at the check point where we parked was after a good buck they knew was in the area. Other than that, I didn’t hear much about them.
We were in Unit 48. South of Ten Sleep. Northwest of Casper. SNS outfitters. It took around 5 points to draw a bull tag.
I’m the guy that bought your Lund Ed! I love it!
Thanks everyone! We got them processed at Pat’s in Mills. They did a really nice job. Cost was about $200 a piece. Vacuum sealed and froze. A little over 200# of boneless meat each. Some of the hides were dropped at a local taxidermist for tanning or we wouldn’t haven’t gotten everything in the coolers we had along. The guy that drove bought a huge rack that bolted to his topper. The racks were strapped to that for the ride home.
And a shout out to Randy W. I picked up the rifle for this hunt last January. Tikka Veil Wideland in .300 WSM, topped with a Vortex Viper HS 4-16×44. He went through what he does with a new rifle and gave me some recommendations for loads. I’ve ran about 120 rounds through it now, which with today’s ammo and components market wasn’t easy to do. The gun really shoots and I’m sure would do even better for others.
We had one major accident on the trip. Not a member of my group. We had rain and fog on day one. The next morning a horse slipped going down a fairly steep grade. Fell over and landed on the hunter. Broken femur. Crushed pelvis. Internal bleeding. The guides and camp jack immediately got him as comfortable as possible and out to where a heli-flight could pick him up. A couple surgeries and he is on the mend with a long recovery ahead.
More pics of the country.
Eric held out until the last couple hours of the last day. 375 yards.
Sean’s bull. This was day 2 also. This bull was in the same herd as mine and I actually tried to get on him but was never given a decent shot. The top on his left side is teal distinct. 370 yards.
Day 3 started with rain turning to snow as we got higher. We didn’t make it to where we were going to set up glassing and we could hear them bugling and calling at the top of a pine filled ravine. We got off and snuck up through the trees. Bulls were fighting and carrying on and we got right to the edge of the pines where Mike took a really nice 6×6 at 130 yards.