Its Baaack… (Political Post)

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=HF3813&version=0&session=ls93&session_year=2024&session_number=0

Lead tackle ban and lead shot ban is back. This one just flat out bans all sales by retailers of any lead jigs or sinkers. This might even be the same bill that bans shooting sports teams from using lead shot.

Yeesh, this stuff is exhausting. There does seem to be a common denominator among the authors of bills with little to no common sense. Why is it always over educated, metro Democrats?

BigWerm wrote:

Yeesh, this stuff is exhausting. There does seem to be a common denominator among the authors of bills with little to no common sense. Why is it always over educated, metro Democrats?

Some of these idiots I’d just love to punch in the nose. Just because.

BigWerm wrote:

Why is it always over educated, metro Democrats?

Because over educated, metro Democrats are fun suckers. They like to suck all the fun out of life.

Everyone’s life BUT THEIR OWN…
NIMBY’s

Didn’t we already complain about this one? https://www.in-depthoutdoors.com/community/forums/topic/lead-shot-ban-dfl-introduced-bill-opposed-by-mn-state-hs-clay-target-league/

Authors are more than just the liberal twin cities too, ya got Minnetonka, st.louis park, edina, Brooklyn center, stillwater, and golden valley/robbinsdale in there.

It’s okay to smoke a blunt on the lake but can’t use a lead jig? Wtf

SAVE THE LOONS!! I hate those dead loons laying around everywhere.

This one was already beaten to a pulp a couple weeks ago. Dead horse that has no chance of passing in its current form.

Deuces wrote:

Authors are more than just the liberal twin cities too, ya got Minnetonka, st.louis park, edina, Brooklyn center, stillwater, and golden valley/robbinsdale in there.

This comes as a surprise to a lot of lifetime metro people, but to anyone in the outstate there is little to no difference between MSP/STP, SLP, Edina, BC, GV/Robbinsdale etc. when referencing the “cities”…Stillwater is borderline “cities” or not

BigWerm wrote:

This comes as a surprise to a lot of lifetime metro people, but to anyone in the outstate there is little to no difference between MSP/STP, SLP, Edina, BC, GV/Robbinsdale etc. when referencing the “cities”…Stillwater is borderline “cities” or not

Exactly, its the twin cities metro area.

They may force me to buy a lifetime supply.

These posts just help you decide who is really spending their time on worthwhile legislation.. vote accordingly. If you like worthless stuff.. these are your people.

BigWerm wrote:

This comes as a surprise to a lot of lifetime metro people, but to anyone in the outstate there is little to no difference between MSP/STP, SLP, Edina, BC, GV/Robbinsdale etc. when referencing the “cities”…Stillwater is borderline “cities” or not

Bingo!

suzuki wrote:

They may force me to buy a lifetime supply.

I have a lifetime supply, but not much good if you can’t even use it legally.

“Stillwater is borderline “cities” or not”

Stillwater is definitely part of the cities

foulpole18 wrote:

“Stillwater is borderline “cities” or not”

Stillwater is definitely part of the cities

Stillwater is the freaking boonies are ya kidding me?

The cities are Saint Paul and Minneapolis.

Lovingly,

An over educated metro liberal who is smart enough to know this bill is DOA like all the rest. (But glad y’all have something to shake your fists at on a boring Wednesday.)

Stillwater is definitely part of the cities. Urban sprawl.

fishthumper wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
Why is it always over educated, metro Democrats?

Because over educated, metro Democrats are fun suckers. They like to suck all the fun out of life.

Dude I hate to break it to you but that’s been you lately.

How is this a political post? Banning lead tackle is just dumb. I can understand the lead shot ban for waterfowl hunting but our lake bottoms aren’t covered in lead tackle, not even close.

Has anyone seen a dead loon? I am on the water a ton and have never seen one. Never heard of anyone seeing one either. Where are all these loons that are supposedly dying from lead poisoning? When I was young loons were relatively rare. Now they are on every lake or big pond in the northern half of state and a huge area in Canada. I’d say they are doing just fine. Typical government trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.

I believe I read a part of the bill that said the banning of lead was for child safety and development of children… Or something along those lines.

WTF?

This idiocracy will continue until they are voted out.
Remember this kinda stuff when it’s time to vote.

Your choice

big_g wrote:

These posts just help you decide who is really spending their time on worthwhile legislation.. vote accordingly. If you like worthless stuff.. these are your people.

Well put big_g

I came across a dead loon floating in the slop on Platte Lake two summers ago. I decided to let the bird rest in peace in its natural environment. If it had been floating in more developed areas of the lake I probably would have called the CO.

I would bet that habitat loss and nest destruction from wake boats is a much bigger issue with loons than ingesting lead off the bottom of the lake. It would make a bigger impact if they addressed those issues than banning lead fishing tackle and lead shot in ammo.

Eagles also ingest lead when they pick away at a gut pile of a dead deer taken by a hunter with lead ammo. But the argument there is that the bald eagle population has literally never been higher in North America. Their population is thriving. They’re so common in some areas that they’re like crows.

FinnyDinDin wrote:

Has anyone seen a dead loon? I am on the water a ton and have never seen one.

We can only conclude that loons are immortal.

Reef W wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>FinnyDinDin wrote:</div>
Has anyone seen a dead loon? I am on the water a ton and have never seen one.

We can only conclude that loons are immortal.

Long live the loons!

Point was, they aren’t dying off from lead poisoning which is often the justification for the lead tackle ban. When lead shot was used for waterfowl it was blatantly obvious it was a problem in some places.

gimruis wrote:

Eagles also ingest lead when they pick away at a gut pile of a dead deer taken by a hunter with lead ammo. But the argument there is that the bald eagle population has literally never been higher in North America. Their population is thriving. They’re so common in some areas that they’re like crows.

We have way too many avian predators, especially eagles. They should open a season.

FinnyDinDin wrote:

We have way too many avian predators, especially eagles. They should open a season.

LOL that might be a little aggressive. Can only imagine the response from the public if there was an open season on baldies.

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>FinnyDinDin wrote:</div>
We have way too many avian predators, especially eagles. They should open a season.

LOL that might be a little aggressive. Can only imagine the response from the public if there was an open season on baldies.

Heck, you can’t even legally pick up a eagle feather laying on the ground.

Reef W wrote:

We can only conclude that loons are immortal.

That made me actually LOL Reef.

gimruis wrote:

I would bet that habitat loss and nest destruction from wake boats is a much bigger issue with loons than ingesting lead off the bottom of the lake. It would make a bigger impact if they addressed those issues than banning lead fishing tackle and lead shot in ammo.

Have we even confirmed Loons are facing problems? From my anecdotal experience there’s more loons than ever, my parents lake usually has a couple dozen on it each summer, there are 100 more lakes like it within 10 miles, and you can hear their calls jumping from one lake to the next in the morning. As far as habitat loss/nest destruction from wake boats, I strongly doubt that as well, since there are multiple loon nests right by the public access that are full every year, and that is also the busiest part of the lake for wakeboats.