Better Resale 1880 with HPDI 200 or F150 4 stroke

  • tonyholland00
    Plymouth MN
    Posts: 91
    #1320017

    Have not made final call on which engine to put on 1880 looking for pros and cons. I am very much leaning towards HPDI 200.

    Any real difference in Gas MPG?

    outdoor_guy
    Norway,Michigan (In DA UP)
    Posts: 165
    #865695

    200 HPDI Boat will perform much better !

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #865696

    200 hands down for me.

    sauger
    Hastings ,MN
    Posts: 2442
    #865698

    200 fer me!

    bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #865699

    Not sure what your options are but my genearal motto in such instances are “go big or go home”

    smackem
    Iowa Marshall Co
    Posts: 956
    #865701

    Dodge now has free HEMI upgrades…Gofer da 200

    magnum165
    Baldwin, WI
    Posts: 211
    #865725

    I would find it hard to go back to another 2 stroke motor. Just my opinion.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #865728

    I felt the same 165 until I got to fish out of one with a 200HPDI. That motor is really, realy quiet for a 2 stroke. You can actually talk while cruising across the lake at 52mph. Try that with an Opti on the back.

    nic-habeck
    Lake Mills, WI
    Posts: 831
    #865732

    If you’re going new hold on for a bit, have heard some rumors they may make a standard shaft SHO Yamaha for walleye rigs. Best of both worlds, quiet, no burning oil and plenty of power.

    Max HP will be best for re-sale hands down always.

    Dean Marshall
    Chippewa Falls WI /Ramsey MN
    Posts: 5852
    #865769

    My guess is a well taken care of boat will have good resale regardless of which motor. The Hpdi on that boat has a bonus fun factor,it will be a very fast ride,plus it will be a very efficient motor using much less throtle to stay on plane.Although 2 strokes will soon be in the past where Yamaha is concerned,I would not hesitate a bit to run with the HPDI.Good luck to ya & enjoy the new ride.

    skeeter101
    Oak Grove, MN
    Posts: 43
    #865770

    I have the same boat and only have the 150, and do not regret it a bit. I love the 4 strokes, and would never own a 2 stroke again! The top speed difference is only 2mph,and the 150 actually planes out faster!

    Yeah the resale may be a little better with the 200, unless gas shoots back up to $5!?

    Skeeter posts all the performance specs on their website with the identical boats. You can see the fuel economy and top speeds, and plenty of other info. Either way you will love the boat! As long as you dont have to deal with their warranty dept! Its a joke!

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4451
    #865771

    Quote:


    Max HP will be best for re-sale hands down always.



    That’s a mentality that’s fast fading away. If it’s grossly underpowered. That’s one thing. If it’s not maxed out, but more than sufficient. No problem.

    Castaway
    Otsego,MN
    Posts: 1573
    #865833

    I would want the extra zip myself but it would be a toss up in this case depending on the buyer.How you take care of the boat will probably mean more later on.A cherry boat will still get a premium price.If your buying a brand new rig and worrying about resale,Yikes that first splash is going to be expensive

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #865836

    As for resale, I’m going to guess that 5+ years from now that 200 2-stroke might be tougher to get rid of. Good motor for sure, but 2-strokes will soon be off the market IMO.

    I test drove that boat last fall with the 200. Personally, I don’t need that power or speed anymore. If you’re going to use this boat to pull any adult skiers out of the water, then the 200 has some advantages.

    For me, I’d save some $$ now, go with the 150, and never have to worry about selling a 2-stroke motor.

    ET

    cdn
    West Central, MN
    Posts: 338
    #865878

    Why not run a 200 4 stroke on the 1880? I have a friend that once had an 1880 with the 200 Yammy 4 stroke and it was nice. Does Yamaha not have a 200 4 stroke option anymore, or do they not recommend the weight on the transom?

    I’ve ridden in the 1880 with the 150 4 stroke. The 150 has plenty of power for this boat and it’s a great motor.

    I wouldn’t have a problem with an HPDI, but given a choice I’d go 4 stroke. I always want the max hp if I had a choice…

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4451
    #865901

    I guess I can’t speak to the difference between the 200/150. I’ve got a 150 on my rig and it’s rated for 175. I just wasn’t worth the extra cash for a few more HP. Of course I was comparing a 150 Verado with a 175 Verado. The 150/175/200 are the same block, components (intake, exhaust), weight, size, etc. Just a different ECU to control the output. So all I lost was a few top end MPH. No big deal.

    A 150 4 stroke may be a world of difference between a 200 2 stroke. I really don’t know.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #865919

    Yes, it’s a weight issue, especially if you plan to add a kicker & transom trolling motor.

    As far as getting rid of a 2 stroke motor 5 or 10 years from now, simply go look how many are out there still running today. It won’t be an issue. You can see guys with motors 30 years old everytime you drive by a landing.

    Here are Yamaha’s performance bulletins:

    200HP

    150HP

    If you notice, the 150 was tested with a single console 1880, vs. the full windshield 1880 on the 200HP boat. The weight as tested line shows about a 400lb difference.

    matt_schultz
    Mississippi River Pool 4
    Posts: 112
    #866018

    I think you’re going to win with either choice. That boat w/ a 200 is a blast to run. I’m on my second season with the 200 HPDI (after having 4 stk’s) and it’s been a great motor. Resale-wise, people will like the peformance factor on this package.

    On the other side the 150 is a very solid, trouble-free motor. It will peform great and will still outrun any walleye I know of .

    skeeter 1880
    Posts: 10
    #866087

    I have been in the 1880 with the F150 and have one with the 200 HPDI. Both are great motors as well as bulletproof. The 200 will get you more than 2 mph than the 150 as my buddy’s runs 48mph and mine will run 55mph. That is loaded with all our gear for tournaments. I am very happy with the gas mileage of the 200 as it is not that much worse than the 150. The 200 makes a little bit more noise at wide open but they are both quiet in my opinion. I really like the punch and quickness of the 2 stroke. The 150 does an excellent job of getting up on plane and getting you down the lake too. My vote is still for the 200 HPDI. The bad thing about putting the current 200 4 stroke on the back is that you can’t put a kicker on too. If the new Offshore or SHO(25in shaft) comes out in a 200 that may be the ticket. I really feel that having the 200 HPDI on the WX 1880 is the best of both worlds comparing the WX1850 and WX1900.

    crossin_eyes
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 1339
    #866217

    I too have an 1880 with the 200 HPDI. I’m kind of a go fast guy so that swayed my decision a bit, but I also have a young family and have a value-oriented conscience. When I bought my rig in 2007, the 200 HPDI was actually less expensive than the 150 4 stroke. I saved about $500 and got a very quick boat. My top speed is about 55 mph but as Kooty can attest to, I can run 53 across Mille Lacs with 4 guys and gear in the boat no sweat. Try that with a 150 and you likely won’t see 45. As for the quiet part, the 200 is certainly louder at idle than the 4-stroke, but it’s very quiet for a 2 stroke and you can easily talk above the noise while cruising.
    Anyway, just my 2 cents, and if you’d like to jump in mine for a ride I’d be more than happy if our schedules mesh.

    Mike

    tonyholland00
    Plymouth MN
    Posts: 91
    #866227

    Thanks for the opinions, I got the 200 HPDI on the 2009 1880. It was cheaper than the F150 by almost $1000.00 because of some rebates. I am moving up from a 1989 Tyee so i look forward to hitting the water. My only worry now is the single axle trailer it is coming on.

    crossin_eyes
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 1339
    #866865

    I too worried out the single axle trailer. I could have ordered a double axle and didn’t. I wish it had 15″ wheels and a higher weight rating like the trailer under the Ranger 1850 and 1860’s, but I’m on my 4th season with no problems and no unusual wear on my tires.
    Enjoy your new Skeeter!!

    tonyholland00
    Plymouth MN
    Posts: 91
    #866966

    Good to hear, thanks for the response.

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