Rust prevention

  • Rodwork
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 3783
    #2222951

    The frame damage post got me thinking about rust prevention. Wondering what people are using and spraying with. DIY or over the counter. Saw a post about mixing used oil and diesel fuel 50/50. I remember a post on a different thread about using Fluid Film. What are you using to prevent vehicle rust?

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 14853
    #2222956

    Washing your vehicle frequently in the winter that has an undercarriage wash would be helpful.

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 5341
    #2222957

    I remember a post on a different thread about using Fluid Film.

    I have heard of people using this product. Personally I have not used anything.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 7237
    #2222959

    I do not drive the vehicle once the freeze/thaw cycle starts in this area if I don’t want it to rust – without exception.

    Some applications or procedures temporary delay the inevitable and have a bit of merit, while others are complete snake oil. Even the “coatings” that keep the solutions off are going to chip or erode away from movement, rocks, gravel, sand, water, etc. Washing the under side to remove some of the solution likely helps slow down the process some but won’t stop it.

    MX1825
    Posts: 3020
    #2222960

    Good regular car washes help a lot.
    The places with a hand wand you can get at a lot of areas that hold slush and salt.
    I love a good early spring thunderstorm. Take the truck for a ride in the rain. Water gets in everywhere to wash out salt. waytogo

    Other option is move South. whistling

    chuck100
    Platteville,Wi.
    Posts: 2389
    #2222961

    Arizona.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 10221
    #2222966

    Nothing, I’ll be trading it in long before the frame starts rusting that bad.

    bigcrappie
    Blaine
    Posts: 3949
    #2222968

    Fluid Film guy here, people think my 2015 F-150 is 2021 its so clean with zero rust. 4 cans the first time and one can a year for touch up. Best money spent.

    Pete Bauer
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2593
    #2222972

    Fluid film for me. 2012 suburban with 200,000 miles. Zero body rust.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 19317
    #2222974

    Other option is move South.

    They still have problems with rust if they are near an ocean. Not to the level as we do, but if they spend prolonged time in close proximity to the ocean they will rust.

    Joe Jarl
    SW Wright County
    Posts: 1591
    #2222977

    X3 on the fluid film. I don’t worry too much about the frame. On steel body panels, I coat the the inner fenders, inside the cab corners, and inside the rockers. Spots your going to typically see rust bubbles first. These are areas that no automatic carwash will ever clean out. Flush those areas out occasionally with a hose and re-coat. Rust is going to occur eventually no matter what you do, but I’ve had good luck with delaying that for quite a while.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 19317
    #2222979

    I want to add that most newer trucks have those felt wheel well liners and those seem to keep down the salt from even hitting the inside of the fenders. The other areas are another question.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 17851
    #2222982

    I have used fluid film for a long time. My last truck had 120k on it 8 years old. Not a spot of rust

    Dave maze
    Isanti
    Posts: 912
    #2222983

    Fluid film works great for the insides of doors and rockers.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 10992
    #2222991

    Fluid Film is amazing. Yes, it takes some work to do it the first time, but 2013 and 2011 vehicles in my garage have ZERO rust anywhere.

    I’ve coated mild steel machine parts or other metal fab work that I just couldn’t find time to paint and even after years of sitting in the elements as bare steel, the Fluid Film is still working.

    For less than $100 for the first treatment, there’s no way to go wrong with coating the vehicle.

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 5341
    #2222992

    Are you guys spraying this stuff on the body or just the frame and if yes on the body leaving it on there?

    MX1825
    Posts: 3020
    #2222994

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>MX1825 wrote:</div>
    Other option is move South.

    They still have problems with rust if they are near an ocean. Not to the level as we do, but if they spend prolonged time in close proximity to the ocean they will rust.

    Sorry I didn’t specify.
    I would not live near the coast. Our Midwest storms are bad enough. No hurricanes for this guy.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 17851
    #2222995

    Are you guys spraying this stuff on the body or just the frame and if yes on the body leaving it on there?

    Full under coat all jams and rockers. Spray and leave it. Use a actual paint sprayer at a buddies house on his lift

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 19317
    #2223002

    I would not live near the coast. Our Midwest storms are bad enough. No hurricanes for this guy.

    Id rather deal with what we have to deal with than what they do for sure.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2536
    #2223005

    Does anyone use fluid film on their boat trailers? Would that make sense at all?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 21845
    #2223008

    FWIW, most Car Dealers offer the undercoating when they sell new vehicles. You can have it installed on any vehicle, just no warranty. Couple hundred bucks I would guess.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 17851
    #2223009

    Does anyone use fluid film on their boat trailers? Would that make sense at all?

    Yes you could do that. A good pressure washer takes it off but not just dipping it in the lake

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 19317
    #2223010

    Arent rockers rusting from intrusion from the backside? Isnt that nearly impossible to spray any product on/in to get any protection from it? I have a hard time believing spraying it in the door jams is very effective because to me the rust starts normally from behind/underneath.

    Joe Jarl
    SW Wright County
    Posts: 1591
    #2223011

    Vast majority of body rust on a vehicle is coming from the back side. The rockers, cab corners, doors, etc. will usually have rubber plugs you can remove and spray the product inside. You’ll want to flush them out first.

    Dave maze
    Isanti
    Posts: 912
    #2223012

    I pulled the plugs on my doors and rockers to get it in there. Order a super long straw from Amazon to get into the corners.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 17851
    #2223013

    Arent rockers rusting from intrusion from the backside? Isnt that nearly impossible to spray any product on/in to get any protection from it? I have a hard time believing spraying it in the door jams is very effective because to me the rust starts normally from behind/underneath.

    Spray the insides through all plugs and holes available. Just like Dave said.

    jim Van Schoick
    Posts: 18
    #2223014

    Another Fluid Film user, works great

    For under body and frame I buy the Black fluid Film, looks great once done

    James Almquist
    Posts: 252
    #2223016

    Fluid Film everywhere. Took off my inside door panels and sprayed after I put in soundproofing material. It is going to be my last truck so I went a little overboard. Also did the inside of my tailgate.

    Tom Bennett
    Posts: 54
    #2223017

    2006 Toyota Tundra; 2009 GX470. Fluid Film inside all body and door panels, tail gait, hood, etc.. I do this every other year.

    I now use PB Blaster Surface Shield for a yearly coating of everything underneath the truck, including inside bumpers, on-and-underneath the spare tire, and inside the frame rails, etc.. It doesn’t wash off easily from road spray like Fluid Film does. The underside of my trucks are clean of rust.

    They both have developed a nice coat of the oils covered with road dust over the years which is impenetrable by chemical road treatments and water.

    I asked my mechanic if he minds working around it, and he said, “no problem – it sure beats working on a rusty vehicle.”

    Vehicles treated this way will not rot out from under you while they are still running perfectly 20+ years down the road (including our chemically treated winter roads).

    Coletrain27
    Posts: 4789
    #2223018

    i make my own and put it in a pump up sprayer. paint thinner/mineral spirits, transmission fluid and a little bit of wax from toilet wax rings. i break up pieces of the wax and let it soak in the paint thinner until its disolved then add tranny fluid to it.

    the stuff you buy in the cans works good but its expensive and doesnt really go that far

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