Please Support the License Fee Increase

  • ottomatica
    Lino Lakes, MN
    Posts: 1380
    #1686092

    As most of you know, the DNR is looking to get a license fee increase. It has been several years since the last increase. The DNR is 100% funded on license fees and will be staring down some large budget cuts on an already lean workforce. I volunteer on the DNR Bass Workgroup and the folks there say the next two weeks are critical. Please do myself and our state a favor and contact your legislature. INFO

    Here are some contacts below:

    Speaker of the House Kurt Daudt
    [email protected]

    Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka
    http://www.senate.mn/members/member_emailform.php?mem_id=1169&ls=90

    Senate Minority Leader Tom Bakk
    http://www.senate.mn/members/member_emailform.php?mem_id=1003&ls=90

    Senator Bill Ingebrigtsen
    Chair, Environment & Nat. Res. Finance
    [email protected]

    Senator David Tomassoni
    Minority Lead, Environment & Nat. Res. Finance
    http://www.senate.mn/members/member_emailform.php?mem_id=1064&ls=90

    House Majority Leader Joyce Peppin
    [email protected]

    House Minority Leader Melissa Hortman
    [email protected]

    Representative Dan Fabian
    Chair, Environment & Nat. Res. Policy & Finance
    [email protected]

    Representative Rick Hansen
    Minority Lead, Environment & Nat. Res.
    Policy & Finance
    [email protected]

    Otto

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #1686116

    waytogo

    Really no support needed. They will go up unless they add something to the bill the Gov doesn’t like and veto’s it.

    But it’s good to get the word out for the folks that want to protect themselves from future increases by buying a life time license.

    huskerdu
    Posts: 592
    #1686141

    Correct me if wrong:
    Boat fee increase
    Atv fee increase
    Snowmobile fee increase
    Hunting fee increase
    Fishing fee increase
    Were is the money going to be spent?
    Does the fee increase stay with the DNR?
    Questions to ask?

    huskerdu
    Posts: 592
    #1686143

    Here is what they want in addition to fishing and hunting fee increase, adds over 130.00 a year to my fees.

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    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1686165

    Maybe we should hear about those budget cuts.
    This is not the year for increases while not knowing how bad of a hit the federal government is going to come down on the states regarding conservation efforts. The 2018 proposed budget is not out yet for the new fed adminastration and from what I see the states conservation offices are going to get hit hard.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11052
    #1686181

    Thanks for the tip and I totally support the license fee increases.

    In fact, I would gladly pay even MORE if I knew the extra money would fund only increased enforcement. Currently, poaching and game law violations are rampant and out of control in Minnesota. This is because of the lack of resources for PROPER enforcement. Even if we had 2X the number of conservation officers, we would be short.

    For me, the license is the cheapest part of outdoor recreation and considering the constant increase in costs, I completely support a fee increase. Outdoors people also should know that we are one of the few recreational groups that pay their own way in terms of funding through license fees.

    Grouse

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6689
    #1686186

    I think we should double, triple, QUADRUPLE the invasive species inspectors found at boat landings. Give them ALL a hot wash station.
    Operational 24/7 – 365.

    Imagine how sweet it would be to never have to clean your own trailer or boat of weeds. To have a guy or gal at the landing that is hearing every big fish story and sharing it with the next guy.
    A hot water wash station in December-march at everts to wash the salt and grime from the trailer…”hey, can you wash my truck quick, did you ask that guy where he caught fish today?”

    What a world it would be.

    Will this increase help fund the unimaginably horrible zebra mussels from killing all our walleyes? Or the weeds choking off my swimming beach?

    I sure hope they spend this money wisely, ah heck no need to be concerned. Money well spent boys.
    It costs me a few dollars, maybe pennies per trip for what I pay in licenses each year.

    TripleA
    Blaine
    Posts: 655
    #1686187

    If you want to pay more then Donate (like you do your time)… Once fees go up they NEVER EVER WILL GO DOWN. Government cuts are a good thing overall, unfortunately great expenditures like the DNR will be hurt with overall cuts I bet. BUT like everyone that pays taxes, there are times we compromise and adjust spending based on income, the government needs to do this as well.

    Grouse- saying the fees are cheap compared to the gear is valid, but your exact thought on PROPER enforcement would be more efficient than paying for billboard signs about AIS that make zero sense unless you already understand the AIS battle…. spend the money efficiently and I would be more supportive of paying more.

    TripleA
    Blaine
    Posts: 655
    #1686189

    I think we should double, triple, QUADRUPLE the invasive species inspectors found at boat landings. Give them ALL a hot wash station.
    Operational 24/7 – 365.

    Imagine how sweet it would be to never have to clean your own trailer or boat of weeds. To have a guy or gal at the landing that is hearing every big fish story and sharing it with the next guy.
    A hot water wash station in December-march at everts to wash the salt and grime from the trailer…”hey, can you wash my truck quick, did you ask that guy where he caught fish today?”

    What a world it would be.

    Will this increase help fund the unimaginably horrible zebra mussels from killing all our walleyes? Or the weeds choking off my swimming beach?

    I sure hope they spend this money wisely, ah heck no need to be concerned. Money well spent boys.
    It costs me a few dollars, maybe pennies per trip for what I pay in licenses each year.

    haha I hear ya. Just remember many “weekend warriors” out there like myself that look at the fees vs their minimal fishing time and consider it “fair”.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #1686190

    The increases will go through, as certain as death and more taxes.

    Protect yourself from future increases by checking into the lifetime license.

    Al Linder
    Tony Roach
    and I did.

    As the above do, please do support the fee increase.

    TripleA
    Blaine
    Posts: 655
    #1686192

    The increases will go through, as certain as death and more taxes.

    Protect yourself from future increases by checking into the lifetime license.

    Al Linder
    Tony Roach
    and I did.

    As the above do, please do support the fee increase.

    BK- When I look for a lifetime fishing license I can’t seem to find it on the website? I have checked this year and 3 years ago as well. Any ideas?

    ottomatica
    Lino Lakes, MN
    Posts: 1380
    #1686201

    MN DNR Lifetime License
    -)

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Brian Klawitter wrote:</div>
    The increases will go through, as certain as death and more taxes.

    Protect yourself from future increases by checking into the lifetime license.

    Al Linder
    Tony Roach
    and I did.

    As the above do, please do support the fee increase.

    BK- When I look for a lifetime fishing license I can’t seem to find it on the website? I have checked this year and 3 years ago as well. Any ideas?

    TripleA
    Blaine
    Posts: 655
    #1686203

    MN DNR Lifetime License
    -)

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TripleA wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Brian Klawitter wrote:</div>
    The increases will go through, as certain as death and more taxes.

    Protect yourself from future increases by checking into the lifetime license.

    Al Linder
    Tony Roach
    and I did.

    As the above do, please do support the fee increase.

    BK- When I look for a lifetime fishing license I can’t seem to find it on the website? I have checked this year and 3 years ago as well. Any ideas?

    Thanks, I wish It showed up as being available on the DNR license purchase screen with every other license that’s available. “efficiency” comes to mind. weird.

    huskerdu
    Posts: 592
    #1686205

    I would gladly pay more to fish in MN and catch a few more eyes, I already buy a walleye stamp.
    I don’t want see more fishing piers on sloughs! I don’t need a ramp on a slough.
    Tell me how the DNR will manage Mille lacs / take care of the MN Moose
    We’res the WIFM ? Bike trails? Not a chance.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1686216

    Like I say, what are these budget cuts floated around to scare us. Who picks the demise of law enforcement over the introduction of musky to a lake that is not known to produce musky or even walleye that can sustain their own exsistance.

    pale ryder
    NULL
    Posts: 161
    #1686217

    I’m not against paying a little more for a license, but if it means that they sell fewer licenses then they may actually lose revenue.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #1686229

    Missed your post Otto, thanks.

    Someplace on the DNR site it shows the licenses going down the first year after the increase, then rising…(as people forget LOL).

    These people aren’t dumbies. The study they did just before the last increase cost us $650k. The DNR asked for $25 then but were told they could have $22. and could come back for more when they needed it.

    As mentioned earlier. Buy a lifetime license and recommend to everyone else they should support the fee increases.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1686231

    Why fight the lifetime license? Be done with it because we know whats coming down the road!
    There is a much broader picture than licensing that affects the DNR.
    If one may think the DNR is self sustained show me how that is.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 5615
    #1686232

    The DNR is 100% funded on license fees

    Not exactly. Funds come from many sources. Approx 30% come from licenses and registration fees. In a year where the state has a one billion dollar tax surplus, I’ll pass on any License (tax) increases. The state should consider sending some of that money over to the DNR instead. (Or appropriate more funding from the General fund.)

    I’d like to see more money come out of the Legacy fund. After all, that money was suppose to go to the DNR when it was first proposed. Same story with the lottery.

    (The DNR budgeting is every 2 years. This info from last budget cycle.)

    http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/aboutdnr/budget/fy14-15/budget_from.pdf

    -J.

    Dusty Gesinger
    Minnetrista, Minnesota
    Posts: 2415
    #1686233

    The fw and I just mailed our lifetime applications in a couple of days ago. waytogo For some reason she keeps telling me I have expensive hobbies. I think she might be right, but I love my hobbies! Especially introducing them to the fw!

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1686237

    Why fight the lifetime license? Be done with it because we know whats coming down the road!
    There is a much broader picture than licensing that affects the DNR.
    If one may think the DNR is self sustained show me how that is.

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1686238

    Yep, throw money at it.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16113
    #1686253

    I read someplace (don’t ask me where) that 17% of taxes collected could be traced either directly or indirectly to outdoor activities.

    riverruns
    Inactive
    Posts: 2218
    #1686254

    Wish we had it in Wi !! You guys have a good thing with that. (Lifetime license).

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1686314

    Until the DNR can clean house and show they are running a lean ship they will get no support from me for increase on license fees. I hedged against increases with buying my wife and myself the lifetime license about 5 years ago. I also do not understand why we have to have a trout stamp to fish trout. I thought my license said I could go fishing??? DNR needs a major clean up IMHO

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6689
    #1686423

    Until the DNR can clean house and show they are running a lean ship they will get no support from me for increase on license fees. I hedged against increases with buying my wife and myself the lifetime license about 5 years ago. I also do not understand why we have to have a trout stamp to fish trout. I thought my license said I could go fishing??? DNR needs a major clean up IMHO

    Any business who is not adding more value with the same dollar is dying a little each year.

    The government just demands more money, and apparently spends copious amounts to ensure they’ll actually get more when they demand it. Imagine if they put the same effort in finding ways to do more with less. Lol.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11052
    #1686429

    I find this trend where more and more outdoors people seem to see the DNR as “the enemy” to be very distressing.

    The government just demands more money, and apparently spends copious amounts to ensure they’ll actually get more when they demand it. Imagine if they put the same effort in finding ways to do more with less. Lol.

    Do more with less. I love this one. With the cost of nearly everything rising, I’d love to the people who propose this try to actually be in charge and implement it.

    Even with massive gains in efficiency, it’s almost impossible to provide the same products/services at a lower cost over any significant period of time because ALL costs rise.

    I laugh at every CEO who tries to BS his way out of a bad earnings quarter or year by pitching cost cutting measures. You can’t cost cut your way to profitability, that’s just BusinessBS from someone who’s proving they don’t understand finance or economics.

    Efficiency and cost containment are necessary and effective, but eventually you have to have revenue. Remember all those dot.com statups back in the 1990s? Yeah, it doesn’t do you any good to cut costs 20% if your balance sheet shows you running a $20m loss for the year.

    Every year the cost of doing business rises, be that for the DNR or any other org or person. Eventually, only an increase in revenue will allow any org to survive.

    Personally, I think the DNR does a tremendous job overall and I totally get that it takes money to do this. I don’t agree with everything they do, but unlike so many these days who seem to attribute this to malice on the DNR’s part, what I’ve seen is more indicative of the old truism that you can’t please all the people, all the time.

    Grouse

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