NEWS

  • Reef W
    Posts: 2168
    #1731808

    A guy on 11-2 was reporting on some strange weather events over the last couple of days, concluding with “a spectacular picture taken in Tasmania of the Northern Lights”. Ugh….Tasmania is an island on the coast of Australia, and the south pole has its own aurora, and it’s 15,000 miles closer. Duh!

    well that’s because they are upside down so the south pole is north to them jester

    reelman
    Inactive
    Posts: 157
    #1731813

    Every “news source” I see is slanted. For example, last night my wife was watching the network news and of course it was all about the harassment claims. The Republican harassers were identified as Republicans, while an equal number of Democrats were simply identified as Senators or whatever. A small but very real difference that has nothing to do with the news but everything to do with an agenda. Therefore I won’t watch them anymore.

    And the president supporting a republican harasser, then says get rid of democrat harasser

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1731816

    My main source for news is NPR/MPR. Its the topics they cover that I’m interested in. They have many programs that cover subjects beyond mainstream.
    Love “Wait, Wait…Dont tell me!” On the weekends.

    Like it has been said one realy has to filter through a lot of crud to get the jist of whats happening.

    slipbob_nick
    Princeton, MN
    Posts: 1297
    #1731817

    its all about money. You have pharmaceutical companies controlling news outlets with their advertising dollars. You have politicians giving access to reporters that they can control what they report the list goes on and on. I find it best to ignore most of it other than major events and just enjoy being a ways out from the chaos.

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4332
    #1731818

    I have a Bloomberg terminal at my desk (for trading, economic data, rates, etc) and get most of my news from there. It had a left leaning, but does a good job. One Sundays (after IDO of course), I watch Fox News and ABC. It is amazing to see the different interpretation and commentary on the exact same news. Fox seems to talk about stories, with their slant. ABC is obsessed and spends nearly their whole show on Trump tweets.

    I have listened to MPR, to me, it is nothing but propaganda for the Prairie Home Companion loving crowd.

    Karry Kyllo
    Posts: 1141
    #1731826

    I haven’t found a news source available that reports unbiased news. I quit watching news broadcasts years ago. They all have an agenda of some type.

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1731829

    As soon as Eichten retired from MPR, they really turned the left corner which turned me away.

    Don’t know that I agree exactly — but I will definitely say there’s been a drop-off in overall quality, which I think is to be expected. He was a 40 year vet and a master of objectivity. He asked tough questions to both sides and didn’t stand for straw-man arguments from his guests. That’s hard to replicate in this day and age.

    I’m thinking some day they will come out and say, “I liked being a celebrity and the money I was making. I know that there is good and bad on both sides, but it’s all for ratings and advertising dollars, and if I didn’t play the game there were plenty of people standing in line to sell the soul to the devil like I did.

    They’re probably already saying that in private. To me, cable news talking heads on both sides are nothing more than actors playing a role. FOX or CNN, both the same. Like you said EPG, there are limitless pretty faces just waiting to play the part.

    Woodshed
    Elk River, MN
    Posts: 213
    #1731852

    In order to not offend the zealots, the news media choses sides and sticks to their corner.

    There used to be a few TV networks that provided news and each town had 2 or 3 newspapers to choose from. In order to be competitive, none of those organizations could have a shot at a large market share by being biased. Occasionally, the reader had to put up with being offended by what they read, but they came back to that same source of news the next day, or maybe it took a week for feelings to no longer be hurt.

    Today, the options are practically unlimited. Hell, you don’t know me, but you’re reading the drivel I’m writing correct? No one has to be offended by their choice of news anymore. If they don’t like what’s being reported on, they go elsewhere. There’s no need to have a thick skin to read the news anymore.

    This has caused our news sources to pick sides. Unfortunately, facts now matter less then not offending an audience which can easily chose from the many other options that are available. Because we have ability to ignore a differing opinion, we’ve become emboldened in our chosen echo chambers.

    The information age was supposed to expose us to MORE ideas and MORE opinions. It’s having the opposite effect. Folks only read what they agree with. That is being reflected in the bias of our news organizations.

    It would be nice if a news organization could be unbiased, but people are too touchy these days. Today’s facts will drive away 1/2 the audience, tomorrow’s facts will drive away the other 1/2. For the news company, it’s better to pander to a consistent market share of zealots.

    I give a quick glance to FOX, CNN, MPR/NPR, and local news. In order to get all the news, I check them all. They all chose what stories they think their side wants to hear. They omit, or over report stories based on a chosen bias.

    Joe Scegura
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2748
    #1731908

    I get my news from Ricardo Passos now… I had no idea what a Cuttlefish was! Nasty lookin creatures that are apparently tasty! toast

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11297
    #1731911

    Found this extremely disturbing on YouTube. It can’t be isolated to just Fox News. We seem to have been fed false info about the Georgia/Russia conflict a few years back.

    Unless these were actors and is totally fake, I think we need to question what we’re being fed all the time.

    WARNING! Put your tinfoil hat on before watching this.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11297
    #1732106

    I guess part of the reason that I bring this topic up is because I’m 37 years old and still feel like an inexperienced voter. I haven’t felt like I had any clue what is good for this country. I do what most people do, I vote for the one I hate the least. Not any more. This year I am going to educate myself months ahead of time to have absolute confidence that I voted for the right people.

    The news is supposed to inform the public the unbiased facts about what is happening in our country and what our government is doing. This is obviously major fail being they are virtually controlled by our government.

    I found this mentioned I a YouTube video if anyone is interested. I understand that they lean a little left but the main difference is that their supposed to be true investigative journalism.
    https://www.propublica.org/about/
    The Mission
    To expose abuses of power and betrayals of the public trust by government, business, and other institutions, using the moral force of investigative journalism to spur reform through the sustained spotlighting of wrongdoing.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11297
    #1732107

    In case anyone was wondering if I was giving up fishing, I’m headed to Lake Superior on Sunday for a little trolling. Expect a report Sunday or Monday.

    Sam
    St.Francis
    Posts: 384
    #1732114

    I get my news from work I know what’s going on any given day just by talking to the farmers that stop in to the Co op

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16037
    #1732126

    I guess part of the reason that I bring this topic up is because I’m 37 years old and still feel like an inexperienced voter. I haven’t felt like I had any clue what is good for this country. I do what most people do, I vote for the one I hate the least. Not any more. This year I am going to educate myself months ahead of time to have absolute confidence that I voted for the right people.

    Since you will be educating yourself remember the following.

    The country runs on money.
    Money is produced from taxes.
    Taxes are paid from property & income.
    Income is generated from jobs.

    Boil it all down to this……….without jobs you have a welfare state and the few pay for the many. Target your investigation towards people who will bring and expand jobs in your county, state, country. Be leery of those who preach equality for all without demanding participation by all.

    Now the sad truth is all the politicians are bought and paid for by the parties to preach the party agenda so it won’t matter which news outlet you follow.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 9862
    #1732137

    Now the sad truth is all the politicians are bought and paid for by the parties to preach the party agenda so it won’t matter which news outlet you follow.

    Or who you vote for unless you are really poor or really rich.

    Us middle class people bare the burden. ALWAYS!.

    reelman
    Inactive
    Posts: 157
    #1732143

    The vicios $$$ circle that sucks the public into a never ending battle.
    Goverment handouts to the far left and far right,
    Since most IDO members seem to bee fro MN, look no far then the football teams new field your taxes $$$
    Draw a line 5-10 miles around its poor residential, how taxes $$$ is handed out.
    Lots dough their!then think of mineussing all that $$$ out of that area,store and busineses that live off of $$$ hand outs.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1732157

    I are all news with a grain of salt. If you accept the bias, it is easy to spot. Most of it is subtle. Cable news networks are not news unless you are talking about the 2 minutes at the top of the hour, otherwise it’s talk tv and very biased. But they don’t hide it.

    Journalism is pretty much dead in my book.

    Lester Holy has a commercial where he says when he started he thought being a journalist meant not being involved emotionally, but he had changed how he thinks. He was correct with the first part of the statement.

    Woodshed
    Elk River, MN
    Posts: 213
    #1732376

    I lean fiscal conservative. I believe we need a safety net, but not a granny state way of life for the employable unemployed. My interest in social issues boils down to: don’t try to impress me, don’t try to recruit me, neither of us is more special than the other. If someone tries to tell me you’re less of a person because of: A, B, or C… the conversation’s not going to end well.

    I can easily find a news source that won’t hurt my sensibilities, but I don’t think I’ll be very informed in an echo chamber. That echo chamber is going to minimalize or ignore news stories that don’t fit the chosen party line.

    If you want to be an informed voter, I’d suggest picking a few sources, including those that preach things you disagree with.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11297
    #1736011

    For those of you not familiar with RT, it stands for Russia Times. They have an American subsidiary of the Russian parent company that has been accused of Russian propaganda during the last presidential election. It’s considered an independent news source but I will say that there is certainly some propaganda of their own if you watch all of their different shows. I find it nowhere near the level of the mainstream media.

    I thought this was appropriate for this topic. Love him or hate him, you have to admire the man for always telling the truth and seeking the truth.

    I’m sure I’ll be judged for posting this but I really don’t care.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16037
    #1736025

    biggill I had enough of him when he lived in Minnesota. I can’t even imagine the situation where I would click on a video of Jesse. He was what he was, and now he is trying to be something again. A publicity starved ex somebody. To those that like him and his politics…. God bless ya. To those who believe he is a ass clown, I understand.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11297
    #1736040

    Help me understand why people think he’s an ass clown.

    I’ll admit I kind of felt that way when he was governor. Not anymore.

    If you feel obligated to comment on why you won’t watch, I challenge you to. He may be very extreme on his views but he only only reports facts. The one thing that got me hooked is the progression of lies the government told us 40+ years ago are now being openly confirmed by our government.

    FYI… he still lives here 9+ months of the year.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16037
    #1736042

    You have your opinion, I have mine. Neither of us has to justify our opinions to each other.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11297
    #1736046

    If you’re going to go out of your way to comment I feel like you owe me an explanation.

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1736052

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>pool2fool wrote:</div>
    It’s not “news” — and to keep from treating it as such I DVR and watch a day late so I’ve already taken in the facts and formed my opinion — but I’m also a huge fan of the Daily Show on Comedy Central. With all of the global insanity surrounding me I find it helpful to re-digest this garbage with a heavy dose of humor.

    I’ll admit I to find more transparency in comedic news that the mainstream.

    I’ve never really thought about NPR MPR. Maybe I’ll pay a little more attention to them.

    Im sorry but choosing NPR & MPR is as far left as Fox is far right. IMHO

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16037
    #1736055

    If you’re going to go out of your way to comment I feel like you owe me an explanation.

    Umm…… no, i owe you nothing. It’s all opinions. Nothing more, nothing less.

    saugeye-steve
    Posts: 293
    #1736056

    You have your opinion, I have mine. Neither of us has to justify our opinions to each other.

    Liberals hate anyone encroaching on their dream of socialism.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3484
    #1736057

    Oh hey saugeye-steve is back!

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1736066

    In case anyone was wondering if I was giving up fishing, I’m headed to Lake Superior on Sunday for a little trolling. Expect a report Sunday or Monday.

    Well this was the news I was actually waiting to hear about. I had to go find it in another thread. whistling

    “Went out on Sunday myself out of McQuade. Got to the ramp around 745 and had our first coho by 815. Trolled to the pumphouse and back in 40-60 fow and had our limits of coho by the time we trolled back to McQuade. Caught most on the surface but caught fish on 5 colors of lead and down as deep as 60′ on the rigger. Spoons, f/f and stickbaits. Orange, pink, yellow and purple all caught fish.

    Fantastic day to be on the water. Long sleeve tshirts we’re enough to stay comfortable. Great December day for sure!”

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11297
    #1736078

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>biggill wrote:</div>
    If you’re going to go out of your way to comment I feel like you owe me an explanation.

    Umm…… no, i owe you nothing. It’s all opinions. Nothing more, nothing less.

    So you’re going to troll in here make a pointless comment about the video I posted, refuse to watch and leave?

    No wonder you have people jumping down your throat every time you post.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16037
    #1736079

    Yes, if you say so.

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