Cassel in…..Ponder out

  • Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
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    #1283670

    Matt Cassel will start in London against the Steelers. If the Vikings lose again Frazier and staff might not have a job when they get back.

    Stay tuned, this is getting real good.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1197134

    Matt Cooke wasn’t available. He’s getting ready to lead the Wild to the Stanley Cup.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 21855
    #1197135

    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Vikings are not a quarterback away from being great or a head coach away

    John Peterson
    Woodbury, Minnesota
    Posts: 343
    #1197137

    If the Vikings lose, which is likely, I believe Ponder will be starting after the bye because he will be “healthy”. Gonna be a long season for those that really feel the need to watch this squad. Maybe Spielman can trade Ponder and John Carlson to Tampa for their former starting QB Josh Freeman.

    puddlepounder
    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1197138

    if you didn’t see this coming…….you were just a little bit toooooo optimistic. injured ribs after 3 losses in a row, how convenient. nothing ponder did last year showed me that he was going to be any better this year. the wilf’s true colors are coming to light, its all about how much money they can steal…..I mean make, not about having a winning team.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1197139

    Harvin made Ponder look good. Winfield is turning out to be a huge loss on the D. But agree, Ponder is not a good choice as a starter. Back up? yes. Come on. The guy still needs the plays written out on his wrist…

    -J.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1197143

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    Harvin made Ponder look good. Winfield is turning out to be a huge loss on the D. But agree, Ponder is not a good choice as a starter. Back up? yes. Come on. The guy still needs the plays written out on his wrist…

    -J.


    Jon you hit on part of the problem I think. Is the game plan so complicated that you need cheat sheets on the field? What, the helmet communications isn’t enough? Football is about hitting people and taking the fight out of them. Seems we want pretty plays with fancy touchdown dances to entertain us on Sundays.

    Several years ago Spielman destroyed the Miami Dolphins, they are just recently recovering from his mismanagement there. I’m not laying the blame on him, but I don’t see where he isn’t part of the problem, I know he has done nothing to help fix things.

    OK, OK my apologies. I will try and stay out of the Viking threads this year. (But, I am gonna be torching the Gophers )

    0-4 will give people something to talk about on Monday.

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4332
    #1197144

    Hopefully the line blocks better for an older, slower QB.

    slipbobnick
    MN
    Posts: 115
    #1197145

    long time vikes fan. they’ve made it pretty hard to even care this season

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1197147

    Quote:


    OK, OK my apologies. I will try and stay out of the Viking threads this year.


    Yah, me too.

    -J.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1197149

    Quote:


    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Vikings are not a quarterback away from being great or a head coach away


    no need to worry about being the bearer of bad news there G

    to anyone who cares enough to pay attention, and is willing to be honest with themself, that shouldn’t be “news” at all
    good honest “insight” though

    walleyebuster5
    Central MN
    Posts: 3916
    #1197151

    I stand by this.. This year is toast…and with our QB situation, the next 2-3 years are toast. Trade AP and J.Allen NOW! We would get the world for AP and a lot for Allen. Then Ispose we draft another QB.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1197152

    The defense has been the problem this year so far. I don’t like Ponder, but the reality is, he’s played better than I’ve given him credit for. The D on the other hand, well they stink.

    out_fishing
    Moorhead, MN
    Posts: 1151
    #1197157

    Glad we made the move. Not sure if he is much better but it will bring alittle new life into the game. We all know he cant be any worse. It might be just the kick the team needs to get moving.

    Could be just enough to get us away from the #1 draft pick next year.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1197161

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    The defense has been the problem this year so far. I don’t like Ponder, but the reality is, he’s played better than I’ve given him credit for. The D on the other hand, well they stink.



    X2

    The disclaimer being that I really only watched the first game. Sounds like the offensive line isn’t helping.

    The good news is we got Felton back. No we can’t hand the ball off to AP 50 times a game, but I think Felton is going to have a huge impact.

    Anonymous
    Inactive
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    #1197166

    Quote:


    I stand by this.. This year is toast…and with our QB situation, the next 2-3 years are toast. Trade AP and J.Allen NOW! We would get the world for AP and a lot for Allen. Then Ispose we draft another QB.


    I don’t think we’d get the world for AP, the Vikings are the only team dumb enough to make such a trade for a running back.. aka Hershel Walker.. As for Allen, I bet we wouldn’t even get a #1 pick for him, trades just don’t happen much anymore, plus I am afraid he’s really past his prime.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1197167

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    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Vikings are not a quarterback away from being great or a head coach away


    You mean they’re already there?

    joe-winter
    St. Peter, MN
    Posts: 1253
    #1197168

    Is Ponder the only problem? of course not. But a decent QB covers up weaknesses of a team. The Patriots stink right now. But they have Tom and 3 wins. is Ponder the a bad QB? no. But I believe on his best day he is only a game manager. is that what franchises want “at best a game manager”? No they want at worst a game manager and at best a player that can command a huddle and say things like “Ok F’ers, i got this ‘S’. we’re marchin down this field and we’re winning”. and then goes and does it. Ponder has not shown any of that.

    07lotwchamp
    Andover, Mn
    Posts: 299
    #1197169

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    long time vikes fan. they’ve made it pretty hard to even care this season


    X2

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1197185

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    . . . the Vikings are not a quarterback away from being great or a head coach away


    of course not, but if you’ve been listening to Les Bagley then you know what the missing piece really is … they’re a NEW STADIUM away from greatness

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
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    #1197187

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    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Vikings are not a quarterback away from being great or a head coach away


    I agree 1000%

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1197188

    Observations-This team is in total disarray from the head coach on down.
    The fake field goal/touchdown by the Browns was inexcusable. The coaches should have seen the 6’4″ T.E. lurking near the sideline and called timeout and put an end to the play before it started.
    Tampa Two-Our D-Backs are constantly out of position and get torched constantly, combo coaching/talent.
    O-line-Same as last year but playing like garbage, I think it will be very interesting to see how they play with a different QB.
    D-line-for years our bread and butter has been our ability to stop the run. No big change in personel here yet teams are running at will.
    Something is going on with this team, lack of confidence in the coaches and quarterback? I don’t know but it’s a mess. I really think it’s time for a coaching change.
    Ponder-His accuracy is terrible, He very seldom hits recievers in stride costing the team many yards and a couple TD’s
    I love watching football every Sunday and I’ll tune in this Sunday. Keep an eye on the offinsive line Sunday…
    My two cents…

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1197191

    Observations-This team is in total disarray from the OWNERSHIP on down.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1197195

    Quote:


    Observations-This team is in total disarray from the OWNERSHIP on down.



    Observations-the team is in total disarray from the fan’s garden tomatoes down.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1197196

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    Observations-This team is in total disarray from the OWNERSHIP on down.


    Good point, Groucho’s a little sketchy.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1197198

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    Ponder-His accuracy is terrible, He very seldom hits recievers in stride costing the team many yards and a couple TD’s


    x1000. Reminds me of Wade Wilson.

    -J.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1197201

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    x1000. Reminds me of Wade Wilson.

    -J.


    at least we could blame his on the Whiskey Bottle … wonder what Ponder’s excuse is

    cdm
    Oronoco, SE. MN.
    Posts: 771
    #1197211

    You guys can stay home every Sunday and cheer on these losers I should have the river for fishing and hunting all to myself this fall

    uffdapete
    Rainy Lake, MN
    Posts: 394
    #1197284

    X2.

    With Rainy Lake and Rainy River out my back door and Kab and more Canadian lakes than I can remember within an hour’s drive it’s hard enough to take time to watch them when they’re winning!

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