mandatory ebola quarantine

a SCARLET LETTER anyone ?

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LOL

Brian Klawitter wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>joemama wrote:</div>
people are not cattle

For two reasons.

1. Cattle don’t lie
2. We can’t shoot people.

WinnebagoViking wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Tom Sawvell wrote:</div>
I just read that this nurse has openly stated that she will not abide by the rules regarding her post-quarantine stint.

Good for her. No should tolerate unnecessary policies driven by ignorance and fear.

Unnecessary is a matter of opinion. Any precaution is unnecessary until the event that the precaution is intended to prevent actually happens. A seatbelt serves no purpose whatsoever. Unless, of course, you get in a car accident.

It looks like the Maine nurse has violated her quarantine order and gone for a bike ride this morning. Weather or not she has a point about if a quarantine is necessary in her specific circumstances, she’s rapidly building the impression that she’s a spoiled, self-indulgent brat.

Slap the cuffs on her and haul her back to an isolation unit. It’s not up to some lone nurse to determine what is in the public’s best interest. Let the courts decide it once and for all.

Grouse

I have a fire extinguisher in my home which will hopefully never be necessary, but I don’t go spraying it around the house “just in case”

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>WinnebagoViking wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Tom Sawvell wrote:</div>
I just read that this nurse has openly stated that she will not abide by the rules regarding her post-quarantine stint.

Good for her. No should tolerate unnecessary policies driven by ignorance and fear.

Unnecessary is a matter of opinion. Any precaution is unnecessary until the event that the precaution is intended to prevent actually happens. A seatbelt serves no purpose whatsoever. Unless, of course, you get in a car accident.

It looks like the Maine nurse has violated her quarantine order and gone for a bike ride this morning. Weather or not she has a point about if a quarantine is necessary in her specific circumstances, she’s rapidly building the impression that she’s a spoiled, self-indulgent brat.

Slap the cuffs on her and haul her back to an isolation unit. It’s not up to some lone nurse to determine what is in the public’s best interest. Let the courts decide it once and for all.

Grouse

X2!!! She see’s a payday at the end of this whole thing…RR

<quote>An expert who has studied Ebola for more than a decade, Purdue University’s David Sanders, told CNN on Monday that he feels the policy on mandatory quarantines in New York and New Jersey are “largely political” rather than medical fact and that leaders are acting based on the desire to calm a panicked public rather than to do what’s most beneficial.</quote>

<quote> Dr. Stephen S. Morse, an epidemiologist at Columbia University’s School of Public Health, sees an over-reaction.

“These people should not be criminalized. For one thing, these are people who have done something out of the goodness of their heart, out of a feeling of conviction. And they should be considered heroes for putting themselves in such danger and not treated as if they’re returning criminals. Someone who has Ebola isn’t a criminal. They just happen to have a very nasty disease that has to be treated medically.”

Health care workers, he said, can monitor their symptoms and report themselves. But Hickox’s treatment at the hands of officials may keep others from stepping forward.

“The more we stigmatize it, the less likely people are to come forward with their problem until it’s too late. Even in (Texas Ebola victim Thomas Eric) Duncan’s case, it was the system that let him down, not his failure to come forward. “

reasoned response of a constitutional scholar

Being asked to stay in one’s own home or on one’s own property for a period of time is hardly treating someone like a criminal.

The government makes us do all kinds of things, that doesn’t mean we’re being treated like criminals. Could the quarantine be handled differently, shorter, etc? Probably. Is it being politicized? Sure, anything that 2 or more people disagree on can be put down to politics. Why should that equal “do nothing”?

Do we really have to wait until someone who is not quarantined transmits the disease before we take any precautions? This nurse didn’t just go to Africa as a tourist on a shopping holiday. She was treating Ebola patients.

Grouse

maybe they should just be required to call out “UNCLEAN UNCLEAN” whenever they are out in public

or alternatively they could sew a gold six-pointed star patch to their lapel

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Let the courts decide it once and for all.

Grouse

Done. The Court rejected the efforts to violate her civil rights.

WinnebagoViking wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TheFamousGrouse wrote:</div>
Let the courts decide it once and for all.

Grouse

Done. The Court rejected the efforts to violate her civil rights.

Not exactly.

The court ruled that she did not have to confine herself to her house or property.

The court upheld Maine’s requirement that she monitor herself and report the results to public health officials for the full period as before. She also must inform pubic health of any plans to travel. Presumably, this means the court has left the door open to denial of proposed travel plans based on the level of risk.

Grouse

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

The court upheld Maine’s requirement that she monitor herself and report the results to public health officials for the full period as before. She also must inform pubic health of any plans to travel.

The Court affirmed the CDC guidelines which she was already observing voluntarily. Not even close to a victory for the hysterical.

This was a result of botched handling upfront. Quarantines wouldn’t even come into to play had the 2 nurses not contracted it from the guy who died. We know it is hard to spread, so how exactly did 2 medical workers get it when his family who lived with him didn’t? People had a right to be alarmed when the media and government had a narrative that didn’t fit the reality.

My favorite part of Ebola’s 15 minutes of fame is one word, Science, has become a buzzword and talking point.

pugsley
science a new word… stick to the wild..it seems that you actually know what our typing about

I said a new buzzword and talking point. Learn to read. If you haven’t noticed, people have been using the word in the media (both traditional and non-traditional) today in ways it hasn’t before.