St. croix river monster

  • Matt Brookman
    Stillwater, Minnesota
    Posts: 183
    #1229111

    Came across this giant paddle fish (floating dead) just north of the old swing bridge. 60+ inches long

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #1193656

    Holy smokes! That is huge!

    396ranger
    Cottage Grove MN
    Posts: 283
    #1193660

    Still haven’t hooked into one of them yet and that is a big fish

    Matt Brookman
    Stillwater, Minnesota
    Posts: 183
    #1193663

    We pointed it out to the DNR creel survey guy and he was really impressed.

    walleyenordy
    Cottage Grove, MN
    Posts: 502
    #1193664

    Wow thats a big fish

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    #1193669

    Matts Lucky Bait posted a pic on FB of a dead paddle fish floating a week or so ago on the Croix. I wonder what’s killing them ???

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1193685

    How big do these fish get? Could it just be natural causes? Either way that thing is a monster indeed. Cool pic

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1193733

    Zeebs eating all their plankton. I was under the impression that the paddlefish population upstream from Iowa was not that big.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #1193756

    They’re coming back Pug.

    Three years ago on the 4th of July, it was like fire works coming out of the water with all the paddles cartwheeling in the are. It was awesome to see.

    I EDIT: can’t discount the construction hurting these fish, but over the years I don’t recall ever seeing one that looked like it died of natural causes.

    The all had prop marks/cuts on them.

    I know the commercial fishermen on P4 (well the ones I know anyway) will move their nets if they start catching paddles and it happens frequently.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1193796

    That’s cool. So they actually jump? I suppose when a paddle fish jumps, its pretty easy to distinguish from other fish.

    Nice to hear they are making a come back. I might have to set up a brine shrimp bait tank.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #1193873

    It’s more of a cartwheel and well out of the water. They are an amazing fish.

    They must have been thick in ’09 below L&D #3.
    My boat caught (snagged) two while cat fishing. This first on was brought to the boat by Jeff Harcey and tipped the scale at 35 pounds.

    (pooped all over Jeff’s son Tanner!)

    Two nights later when I was alone I brought one to the boat that was guestimated at over 50 pounds. Hard to tell for sure. It wouldn’t fit into my over sized net and I released it at boat side.

    Anytime someone anchored and fishing for cats brings two paddles to the boat you know there must be a ton of fish in that area!

    My guess is they swim along and run into the line, the line tightens up on them and when it gets to the hook, finally snags them. Vertical jigging walleye guys get them frequently, but they’re moving and bouncing a jig up and down. Much easier to snag pretty much everything.

    Matt Brookman
    Stillwater, Minnesota
    Posts: 183
    #1193883

    I’ve heard guys catch them jigging silver blade baits at the Red Wing damn. Big ones too.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18127
    #1193951

    Quote:


    I’ve heard guys catch them jigging silver blade baits at the Red Wing damn. Big ones too.


    Yea, “catching” on blade baits…

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1193970

    Catch them on the bill.

    I remember seeing a show on them trying to farm them or breed them for reintroduction places. It was cool seeing the underwater video of them suspended with their mouths gaping open.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #1194024

    Quote:


    I’ve heard guys catch them jigging silver blade baits at the Red Wing damn. Big ones too.


    As Mike alluded to, the blades don’t need to be silver.

    Here’s a snagged paddle from P-4. Photo courtesy of Everts Fishing Resort and Tuck.

    baitshopguy13
    Lakeland,MN
    Posts: 75
    #1194051

    What a Shame seeing these fish dead it just stinks …. ….. literately

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1194082

    The original fish was 60″? So that one probably died of old age?

    Charlie “Turk” Gierke
    Hudson Wisconsin
    Posts: 1020
    #1194267

    Here is a dead one from May 2013. Notice no nose?! I have seen a dead one on shore about every three years or so.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1194283

    They look like a shark normally. They really do without the nose. Did you investigate it further? Did it look like someone harvested the bill for some f’ed up reason or do you suppose they rot off pretty quick when they die?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #1194308

    Quote:


    rot off pretty quick when they die


    They come off quickly when a prop from a boat or tow hits them as well.

    Cp3
    Hammond, WI
    Posts: 314
    #1194331

    Thought this was interesting – Taken from Wikipedia

    Habitat destruction is also causing their numbers to decrease more rapidly.
    Paddlefish need free-flowing rivers that have shallow pools with sandy, rocky bottoms for their spawning.
    Water temperature is also important for spawning.
    Modification of rivers by the construction of dams, dredging, and water removal for agricultural use reduces paddlefish spawning grounds.

    Paddlefish were at one time very abundant in most central U.S. river systems, but populations have declined greatly due to overharvesting, sedimentation, and river modification.
    One of the major reasons for declining paddlefish numbers are the dams constructed on many major U.S. river systems.
    Paddlefish avoid fish ladders because of the metal rebar used in construction, which disrupts their electro-magnetic sense organs.
    The dams block paddlefish migration routes that are very important to the fish for spawning.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #1194333

    From the MN DNR website:

    Conservation / Management

    Construction of dams and flood impoundment structures on large rivers has eliminated much of the paddlefish’s spawning grounds and interfered with migration. Dredging, overfishing, and pollution have also been implicated in the species’ decline since the start of the 20th Century. Some river construction projects have helped paddlefish populations temporarily, but the long-term effects have been negative (Sparrowe 1986; Unkenholz 1986). Injuries and death from propeller strikes on pleasure crafts in Lake Pepin are increasing and pose a significant threat to the slowly recovering paddlefish population. Additionally, paddlefish can be heavily parasitized by lampreys, which can weaken the fish and cause death (J. T. Hatch, University of Minnesota, pers. comm.).

    Zigler et al. (2003) concluded that general area types (for example, channels, tailwaters, or impoundments) based on gross geomorphological features may be inadequate for describing paddlefish habitat and therefore making management recommendations. Rather, microhabitat characteristics (depth, current velocity, and water temperature) appear to be more important factors in habitat selection by paddlefish. The ability of paddlefish to pass through dams and move freely between spawning and non-spawning habitats will be critical for their population recovery. Zigler et al. (2004) found that strong flood pulse (high discharge), low dam head (0.3 m; 12 in. or less), and reduced current velocities positively influenced paddlefish passage through navigation dams in the upper Mississippi River. To effectively manage for this rare species, additional research on paddlefish reproductive and recruitment success is needed. Locating specific spawning areas and evaluating lock chambers as possible avenues for fish passage of navigation dams will be important components of any future studies.

    Other common names for the paddlefish include spoonbill cat, duckbill cat, boneless cat, and spadefish.

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    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18127
    #1194352

    I saw Andrew Zimmern the other night catch one for eating. I don’t recall where they were but there was a minimum size, the fishery was planted and they were snagging.

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