Anyone Curious on Lumber Prices

  • mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3578
    #2033222

    I was coming back from Home Depot with a couple of sheets of 3/4″ treated plywood to replace the flooring on my boat, and a guy pulled me over brandishing a pistol!
    I thought I was being car jacked so I threw my keys at him to avoid getting shot. He swatted the keys away and proceeded to transfer my plyood to his truck.
    I was Lumberjacked!

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    munchy
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    #2033226

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    Deuces
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    #2033264

    Yup

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    munchy
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    #2035714

    Driving through Lakeville this afternoon and the small town lumberyard looks like this…. so yeah…there isn’t any wood available… doah

    I’ve never seen it look like this.

    I’m afraid these lumberyards are going to be hurting once the price finally drops below the price they actually paid for the material.

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    iowa_josh
    Posts: 407
    #2035720

    There is a new tariff on lumber from Canada on top of everything else.

    Canada is having covid problems still. To the point of closing businesses down. It sounds a lot different than here. Whenever they get past that maybe they can put out more lumber? Is the border even open for truckers yet?

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 9918
    #2035725

    Driving through Lakeville this afternoon and the small town lumberyard looks like this…. so yeah…there isn’t any wood available… doah

    I’ve never seen it look like this.

    I’m afraid these lumberyards are going to be hurting once the price finally drops below the price they actually paid for the material.

    That’s not a small town lumber yard. That’s Builders First Source only people that sell more sticks is HD.

    gregory
    Red wing,mn
    Posts: 1588
    #2035730

    I’m surprised there’s not armed guards around those lumber yards. doah

    Charles
    Posts: 1802
    #2036374

    Needed some 1×6 – 8′ Standard boards, yeah $19.00 a board.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16113
    #2036375

    There is a new tariff on lumber from Canada on top of everything else.

    Canada is having covid problems still. To the point of closing businesses down. It sounds a lot different than here. Whenever they get past that maybe they can put out more lumber? Is the border even open for truckers yet?

    In this part of the country a lot of lumber comes on rail from Canada. Trains running around the clock up here.

    Week ago I paid $9.40 for 2 x 4’s.

    munchy
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    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 9918
    #2036394

    *— ITEM# —* *——- DESCRIPTION —— QTY
    248S2 2X4-8′ #2 SPF 131
    2410S2 2X4-10′ #2 SPF 12
    2412S2 2X4-12′ #2 SPF 99
    2414S2 2X4-14′ #2 SPF 166
    2416S2 2X4-16′ #2 SPF 30
    268S2 2X6-8′ #2 SPF 146
    2610S2 2X6-10′ #2 SPF 31
    2612S2 2X6-12′ #2 SPF 179
    2614S2 2X6-14′ #2 SPF 191
    2616S2 2X6-16′ #2 SPF 51
    2108S2 2X10-8′ #2&BTR SPF/HF 6
    21010S2 2X10-10′ #2&BTR SPF/HF 23
    21012S2 2X10-12′ #2&BTR SPF/HF 4
    21016S2 2X10-16′ #2&BTR SPF/HF 1
    249258S 2X4-92-5/8″ STUD SPF PET 220
    2410458S 2X4-104-5/8″ STUD SPF PET 149
    269258S 2X6-92-5/8″ STUD SPF PET 254
    2610458S 2X6-104-5/8″ STUD SPF PET 254
    716OSB 7/16″4X8 OSB RTD 54
    716OSB9 7/16″4X9 OSB RTD 98
    716OSB10 7/16″4X10 OSB RTD 8
    1532OSB 15/32″4X8 OSB RTD 150
    34TGOSB 23/32″4X8 T&G OSB SIF 103

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 19649
    #2036436

    So the price dropped $8,000 from Dec 2020 to Jan 2021 (48k to 40k in chart).

    Sharon
    Moderator
    SE Metro
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    #2036443

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    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
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    #2036455

    $11 for a 2×4 stud at the local Menards (and that’s for their version of lumber suited to building around corners).

    Still no sign of a major slow down in builds or contracts for our area here…my summer gig at the local yard still wants me on-board as many hours as I’m willing to work. I told them my availability corresponds closely with the bite and weather though whistling

    People will build at any cost so long as the number owed at the end of the month fits somewhere close to their income. There has to be a point where banks start realizing that financing a moderate 2000 sq. ft house for $500,000 in rural MN is a risky proposition with inflated material costs. I know a lot of contractors in the area are staying cautiously busy, but are really holding back their expectations and personal spending. If a few key projects are put on hold, income can be hard to come by in a hurry.

    munchy
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    #2036493

    There has to be a point where banks start realizing that financing a moderate 2000 sq. ft house for $500,000 in rural MN is a risky proposition with inflated material costs.

    I was reading an article the other day saying they already are. Many homes are now being built bare bones without the few extras that people could afford two years ago. Those extras are now putting home prices over the limits of qualified mortgages.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 9918
    #2036508

    The profits mills in British Columbia are seeing are unheard of do to the covid shutdown.
    I recently heard but cannot confirm that the mills up there are stockpiling lumber to keep the prices inflated.
    Not sure why, sooner or later they need to dump it on the market.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16113
    #2036511

    The profits mills in British Columbia are seeing are unheard of do to the covid shutdown.
    I recently heard but cannot confirm that the mills up there are stockpiling lumber to keep the prices inflated.
    Not sure why, sooner or later they need to dump it on the market.

    Why? Big oil controls prices through availability. As a supplier of raw materials why would anybody flood the market to lower prices? People are proving prices won’t slow the desire to build. So these guys and everybody else are stuffing their mattresses while the time is hot. No different than boats, trucks or cigars. The people keep paying, the companies will keep raising the prices.

    Angler II
    Posts: 528
    #2036512

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Eelpoutguy wrote:</div>
    The profits mills in British Columbia are seeing are unheard of do to the covid shutdown.
    I recently heard but cannot confirm that the mills up there are stockpiling lumber to keep the prices inflated.
    Not sure why, sooner or later they need to dump it on the market.

    Why? Big oil controls prices through availability. As a supplier of raw materials why would anybody flood the market to lower prices? People are proving prices won’t slow the desire to build. So these guys and everybody else are stuffing their mattresses while the time is hot. No different than boats, trucks or cigars. The people keep paying, the companies will keep raising the prices.

    Been to menards lately? Stockpiles of lumber building up. People are done lying these outrageous prices.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 9918
    #2036513

    Sooner or later they will be on the hook for surplus inventories.
    I’m talking logs piled high in mile rows. It’ll rot before they can use it either that or there’ll be a good run on firewood.

    munchy
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    #2036522

    Been to menards lately? Stockpiles of lumber building up.

    My only thought behind that is all these lumber yards started buying as much as they could last year and it finally all started showing up.

    munchy
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    #2036529

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    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
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    #2036531

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Angler II wrote:</div>
    Been to menards lately? Stockpiles of lumber building up.

    My only thought behind that is all these lumber yards started buying as much as they could last year and it finally all started showing up.

    Ummm! it’s crazy times out there. The funny thing out there are the “Experts” predicting what will happen! What a joke!

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
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    #2036572

    i forgot to take a peek at shingles yesterday when i was at menards……are they as ridicoulsy high priced as lumber?????? i need 7 bundles to re shingle a 10 X 12 storage shed????????/

    Beast
    Posts: 1097
    #2036576

    Back when I was working we bought our lumber buy the train loads, then the tree huggers had to save the spotted owl and were disrupting lumber harvest on the west coast to the point we started to get it from Canada, maybe with the border being closed and the Canadian restrictions on their workforce due to covid may have something due to the supply, driving prices up.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 19649
    #2036731

    i forgot to take a peek at shingles yesterday when i was at menards……are they as ridicoulsy high priced as lumber?????? i need 7 bundles to re shingle a 10 X 12 storage shed????????/

    Regular asphalt shingles don’t appear to be too out of line from what I have seen. If they’ve gone up its nowhere near the amount like lumber.

    ClownColor
    Inactive
    The Back 40
    Posts: 1955
    #2036736

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Eelpoutguy wrote:</div>
    The profits mills in British Columbia are seeing are unheard of do to the covid shutdown.
    I recently heard but cannot confirm that the mills up there are stockpiling lumber to keep the prices inflated.
    Not sure why, sooner or later they need to dump it on the market.

    Why? Big oil controls prices through availability. As a supplier of raw materials why would anybody flood the market to lower prices? People are proving prices won’t slow the desire to build. So these guys and everybody else are stuffing their mattresses while the time is hot. No different than boats, trucks or cigars. The people keep paying, the companies will keep raising the prices.

    Well, the last time gas flew through the roof, congress pushed for alternative fuel supplies. Electric is making a big push as other sources did too. Now look at gas.

    Any commodity out there can put themselves out of business by price inflation. Humans are very intelligent animals. I wood prices continue to climb and supplies are limited, we’ll come up with something to replace it that’s better and eventually cheaper.

    Everything takes time.

    Deuces
    Posts: 4939
    #2036869

    Still no slow down here in the Twin Cities area. Got another email from one of my other remodelers with a dozen signed projects on it for this year that has a ‘soon as we can get to it’ timeline.

    Might slow down new construction, but people fixing up their houses doesnt seem to be going anywhere around here.

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