Please use this thread to keep us all posted on what’s happening with our friends right to keep and bear in cheeseland.
Last I heard, Govenor Veto will do his thing and the veto override was questionable.
Any changes since then?
One East Main Street, Suite 401 • P.O. Box 2536 • Madison, WI 53701-2536
(608) 266-1304 • Fax: (608) 266-3830 • Email: [email protected]
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/lc
WISCONSIN LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL
AMENDMENT MEMO
2005 Senate Bill 403
Senate Substitute
Amendment 2, Senate
Amendment 9 to Senate
Substitute Amendment 2, and
Assembly Amendment 15
Memo published: December 15, 2005 Contact: Ronald Sklansky, Senior Staff Attorney (266-1946)
Anne Sappenfield, Senior Staff Attorney (267-9485)
SENATE SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT 2
2005 Senate Bill 403 permits a person to carry a concealed weapon, except in places where it is
prohibited, if the person holds a license to carry a concealed weapon or a valid out-of-state license to
carry a concealed weapon. Under the bill, licenses are issued by the Department of Justice (DOJ).
The substitute amendment makes the following changes to the bill:
Information on License Application
The bill requires DOJ to design an application form for use by individuals who apply for a
license and a renewal form for individuals to renew a license. The form must require the applicant to
provide only his or her name, address, date of birth, race, sex, height, weight, and hair and eye color.
The substitute amendment provides that the forms must also require the applicant to provide his
or her state identification card number, which is the number assigned to the person on his or her driver’s
license or state identification card.
Notarized Statement
The bill requires a person who is applying for a license to submit a notarized statement that
states that the information in the person’s license application form and any document submitted with the
application is true and complete to the best of the person’s knowledge.
The substitute amendment provides that, before a person submits an application for a license,
the person must display a valid driver’s license or state identification card to the notary who is to
notarize the statement. Before notarizing that statement, the notary must verify the person’s identity
using that document or card and verify that the name and the state identification card number listed on
the license or identification card are the same as the name and state identification card number listed on
the application.
One East Main Street, Suite 401 • P.O. Box 2536 • Madison, WI 53701-2536
(608) 266-1304 • Fax: (608) 266-3830 • Email: [email protected]
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/lc
WISCONSIN LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL
AMENDMENT MEMO
2005 Senate Bill 403
Senate Substitute
Amendment 2, Senate
Amendment 9 to Senate
Substitute Amendment 2, and
Assembly Amendment 15
Memo published: December 15, 2005 Contact: Ronald Sklansky, Senior Staff Attorney (266-1946)
Anne Sappenfield, Senior Staff Attorney (267-9485)
SENATE SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT 2
2005 Senate Bill 403 permits a person to carry a concealed weapon, except in places where it is
prohibited, if the person holds a license to carry a concealed weapon or a valid out-of-state license to
carry a concealed weapon. Under the bill, licenses are issued by the Department of Justice (DOJ).
The substitute amendment makes the following changes to the bill:
Information on License Application
The bill requires DOJ to design an application form for use by individuals who apply for a
license and a renewal form for individuals to renew a license. The form must require the applicant to
provide only his or her name, address, date of birth, race, sex, height, weight, and hair and eye color.
The substitute amendment provides that the forms must also require the applicant to provide his
or her state identification card number, which is the number assigned to the person on his or her driver’s
license or state identification card.
Notarized Statement
The bill requires a person who is applying for a license to submit a notarized statement that
states that the information in the person’s license application form and any document submitted with the
application is true and complete to the best of the person’s knowledge.
The substitute amendment provides that, before a person submits an application for a license,
the person must display a valid driver’s license or state identification card to the notary who is to
notarize the statement. Before notarizing that statement, the notary must verify the person’s identity
using that document or card and verify that the name and the state identification card number listed on
the license or identification card are the same as the name and state identification card number listed on
the application.
The latest bill won’t allow concealed carry in WI churches.
Police canvass area after church robbery
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/lo…l-local-harford
Originally published January 3, 2006
Harford County authorities canvassed the Fountain Green community near Bel Air last night where worshippers were robbed of their cash and valuables during a New Year’s Day service, a spokesman for the county Sheriff’s Office said.
Sheriff deputies and investigators are searching for a gunman who interrupted the evening service attended by about 50 people at Mount Zion United Methodist Church in the 1600 block of Churchville Road, said Bob Thomas, the sheriff’s spokesman.
“It’s standard police practice to contact area residents and find out if they saw anything or heard anything unusual,” Thomas said.
Meanwhile, Harford County Crime Solvers is offering a cash reward of up to $1,000 for information leading to the arrest of the person responsible for this armed robbery. Tipsters must call the 24-hour tip line at 888-540-TIPS to be eligible for the reward. Callers do not have to give their name or appear in court. All information will be kept strictly confidential.
Shortly after 6:30 p.m., a man armed with a handgun and wearing dark clothing and a ski mask burst into the church through a rear door during the service and began yelling and waving the gun around, according to police.
The gunman forced several children and a man to collect wallets and purses. After ordering the congregants to the front of the church, the gunman fled with an undisclosed amount of cash and valuables, Thomas said.
No injuries were reported.
The latest bill won’t allow concealed carry in WI churches.
Police canvass area after church robbery
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/lo…l-local-harford
Originally published January 3, 2006
Harford County authorities canvassed the Fountain Green community near Bel Air last night where worshippers were robbed of their cash and valuables during a New Year’s Day service, a spokesman for the county Sheriff’s Office said.
Sheriff deputies and investigators are searching for a gunman who interrupted the evening service attended by about 50 people at Mount Zion United Methodist Church in the 1600 block of Churchville Road, said Bob Thomas, the sheriff’s spokesman.
“It’s standard police practice to contact area residents and find out if they saw anything or heard anything unusual,” Thomas said.
Meanwhile, Harford County Crime Solvers is offering a cash reward of up to $1,000 for information leading to the arrest of the person responsible for this armed robbery. Tipsters must call the 24-hour tip line at 888-540-TIPS to be eligible for the reward. Callers do not have to give their name or appear in court. All information will be kept strictly confidential.
Shortly after 6:30 p.m., a man armed with a handgun and wearing dark clothing and a ski mask burst into the church through a rear door during the service and began yelling and waving the gun around, according to police.
The gunman forced several children and a man to collect wallets and purses. After ordering the congregants to the front of the church, the gunman fled with an undisclosed amount of cash and valuables, Thomas said.
No injuries were reported.
From: Dick Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tue, 17 January, 2006 17:21
To: new alert group 3
Subject: Senate passes amendend concealed carry bill
This afternoon, the state Senate voted 28 to 5 to concur on the
Personal
Protection Act concealed carry bill as it had been amended by the
Assembly
last month. It will be delivered to Governor Doyle’s desk by the end of
today. (Note: the 28 votes in favor of concurrence does not mean that
we
have 28 votes for the bill).
Governor Doyle now has seven days in which to veto the bill, which he
has
already promised to do.
A Senate veto override session may happen as soon as the end of next
week.
It is almost certain that we will have the votes in the Senate to
override
Doyle’s veto.
Still, we cannot take the Senate for granted. So please contact your
state
senator and ask him or her to vote for the veto override. If you don’t
know
who your state senator is, just go to http://165.189.139.210/waml/ and
enter
your address.
It is especially important to call the five Senate Democrats who voted
for
the bill on December 6th and thank them for their vote, as well as to
encourage them to vote for the veto override. Those senators are:
Senator Russ Decker (608)266-2502
[email protected]
Senator Julie Lassa (608) 266-3123
[email protected]
Senator Bob Wirch (888) 769-4724
[email protected]
Senator Roger Breske (800) 334-8773
[email protected]
Senator Jeff Plale (608) 266-7505
[email protected]
The Senate veto override vote will be the second-last step in the
process.
If the governor’s veto is overridden, the bill will be sent to the
Assembly
for an override vote. It’s in the Assembly where our numbers are tight:
we
are at exactly the 66 votes needed.
Therefore, please take a few minutes to call and thank the Assembly
Democrats who voted for the bill on December 14th. Those
representatives
are:
Representative Barbara Gronemus (888) 534-0091
[email protected]
Representative Mary Hubler (888) 534-0075
[email protected]
Representative Marlin Schneider (888) 529-0072
[email protected]
Representative John Steinbrink (608) 266-0455
[email protected]
Representative Terry Van Akkeren (608) 266-0656
[email protected]
Representative Amy Sue Vruwink (888) 534-0070
[email protected]
Governor Doyle will be using every means at his disposal to get these
Democrats to break ranks with us. It’s up to us to keep the pressure on
by
politely offering thanks and encouragement.
Please forward this email to every gun owner and friend of freedom that
you
know.
Thanks,
The Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association
From: Dick Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tue, 17 January, 2006 17:21
To: new alert group 3
Subject: Senate passes amendend concealed carry bill
This afternoon, the state Senate voted 28 to 5 to concur on the
Personal
Protection Act concealed carry bill as it had been amended by the
Assembly
last month. It will be delivered to Governor Doyle’s desk by the end of
today. (Note: the 28 votes in favor of concurrence does not mean that
we
have 28 votes for the bill).
Governor Doyle now has seven days in which to veto the bill, which he
has
already promised to do.
A Senate veto override session may happen as soon as the end of next
week.
It is almost certain that we will have the votes in the Senate to
override
Doyle’s veto.
Still, we cannot take the Senate for granted. So please contact your
state
senator and ask him or her to vote for the veto override. If you don’t
know
who your state senator is, just go to http://165.189.139.210/waml/ and
enter
your address.
It is especially important to call the five Senate Democrats who voted
for
the bill on December 6th and thank them for their vote, as well as to
encourage them to vote for the veto override. Those senators are:
Senator Russ Decker (608)266-2502
[email protected]
Senator Julie Lassa (608) 266-3123
[email protected]
Senator Bob Wirch (888) 769-4724
[email protected]
Senator Roger Breske (800) 334-8773
[email protected]
Senator Jeff Plale (608) 266-7505
[email protected]
The Senate veto override vote will be the second-last step in the
process.
If the governor’s veto is overridden, the bill will be sent to the
Assembly
for an override vote. It’s in the Assembly where our numbers are tight:
we
are at exactly the 66 votes needed.
Therefore, please take a few minutes to call and thank the Assembly
Democrats who voted for the bill on December 14th. Those
representatives
are:
Representative Barbara Gronemus (888) 534-0091
[email protected]
Representative Mary Hubler (888) 534-0075
[email protected]
Representative Marlin Schneider (888) 529-0072
[email protected]
Representative John Steinbrink (608) 266-0455
[email protected]
Representative Terry Van Akkeren (608) 266-0656
[email protected]
Representative Amy Sue Vruwink (888) 534-0070
[email protected]
Governor Doyle will be using every means at his disposal to get these
Democrats to break ranks with us. It’s up to us to keep the pressure on
by
politely offering thanks and encouragement.
Please forward this email to every gun owner and friend of freedom that
you
know.
Thanks,
The Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association
On THURSDAY, JANUARY 26, 2006, the Senate will vote to override the
Governor’s veto of the PPA
The Assembly may vote to override next week. There are still two Assembly
Democrats, both of whom voted to pass the bill, but are considering voting
with Doyle on the override. They should be encouraged politely to stay with
us and make PPA a reality:
Rep. Terry Van Akkeren (D – Sheboygan) (608) 266-0656, P.O. Box 8953,
Madison, WI 53708, [email protected] Toll Free (888)
529-0026
Rep. John Steinbrink (D – Pleasant Prairie) (608) 266-0455, P.O. Box
8953, Madison, WI 53708, [email protected] (888) 534-0065
Also, you’ll be interested to know that the anti-self-defense crowd
unveiling their “report” why 46 other states are wrong (soon to be 47 with
Nebraska), and why Wisconsin citizens are less responsible than other
Americans. Get the report and give your feedback at (888) 534-0019 or email
[email protected]
WEDNESDAY, Jan. 25, 2006, 11:14 a.m.
New report to question concealed weapons bill
http://www.jsonline.com/news/daywatch.asp#14651
Madison – Allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons wouldn’t do anything
to make the state safer, as supporters of the bill have argued, says a
report compiled by legislative opponents to the bill.
The report was put together by aides to Assembly Assistant Minority Leader
Jon Richards (D-Milwaukee) and is expected to be released today. Richards
said he had his staff put together the report to debunk what they say are
myths about the legislation and how it has worked in other states.
Wisconsin is one of four states that don’t have laws allowing residents with
proper permits to carry concealed weapons.
The state Senate is expected to vote Thursday on an override of Gov. Jim
Doyle’s veto. The bill originally passed there with a 23 to 10 vote, over
the necessary two-thirds majority for a veto override. That sets up a
showdown in the Assembly, where it passed 64 to 32, a thin, veto-proof
margin.
Republican leaders have said they expect people who voted for the bill the
first time to stick with their votes, but Democrats have said they will
uphold Doyle’s veto.
Six Assembly Democrats voted for the bill: Reps. Barbara Gronemus of
Whitehall, Mary Hubler of Rice Lake, Marlin Schneider of Wisconsin Rapids,
John Steinbrink of Pleasant Prairie, Terry Van Akkeren of Sheboygan, and Amy
Sue Vruwink of Milladore.
In the last session of the Legislature, the Senate voted to override a Doyle
veto of a similar bill, but the override attempt failed in the Assembly in
early 2004.
-By Stacy Forster
On THURSDAY, JANUARY 26, 2006, the Senate will vote to override the
Governor’s veto of the PPA
The Assembly may vote to override next week. There are still two Assembly
Democrats, both of whom voted to pass the bill, but are considering voting
with Doyle on the override. They should be encouraged politely to stay with
us and make PPA a reality:
Rep. Terry Van Akkeren (D – Sheboygan) (608) 266-0656, P.O. Box 8953,
Madison, WI 53708, [email protected] Toll Free (888)
529-0026
Rep. John Steinbrink (D – Pleasant Prairie) (608) 266-0455, P.O. Box
8953, Madison, WI 53708, [email protected] (888) 534-0065
Also, you’ll be interested to know that the anti-self-defense crowd
unveiling their “report” why 46 other states are wrong (soon to be 47 with
Nebraska), and why Wisconsin citizens are less responsible than other
Americans. Get the report and give your feedback at (888) 534-0019 or email
[email protected]
WEDNESDAY, Jan. 25, 2006, 11:14 a.m.
New report to question concealed weapons bill
http://www.jsonline.com/news/daywatch.asp#14651
Madison – Allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons wouldn’t do anything
to make the state safer, as supporters of the bill have argued, says a
report compiled by legislative opponents to the bill.
The report was put together by aides to Assembly Assistant Minority Leader
Jon Richards (D-Milwaukee) and is expected to be released today. Richards
said he had his staff put together the report to debunk what they say are
myths about the legislation and how it has worked in other states.
Wisconsin is one of four states that don’t have laws allowing residents with
proper permits to carry concealed weapons.
The state Senate is expected to vote Thursday on an override of Gov. Jim
Doyle’s veto. The bill originally passed there with a 23 to 10 vote, over
the necessary two-thirds majority for a veto override. That sets up a
showdown in the Assembly, where it passed 64 to 32, a thin, veto-proof
margin.
Republican leaders have said they expect people who voted for the bill the
first time to stick with their votes, but Democrats have said they will
uphold Doyle’s veto.
Six Assembly Democrats voted for the bill: Reps. Barbara Gronemus of
Whitehall, Mary Hubler of Rice Lake, Marlin Schneider of Wisconsin Rapids,
John Steinbrink of Pleasant Prairie, Terry Van Akkeren of Sheboygan, and Amy
Sue Vruwink of Milladore.
In the last session of the Legislature, the Senate voted to override a Doyle
veto of a similar bill, but the override attempt failed in the Assembly in
early 2004.
-By Stacy Forster
Hot off the presses….
THURSDAY, Jan. 26, 2006, 12:23 p.m.
Senate overrides concealed weapons bill veto
Madison – The state Senate voted today to override a veto by Gov. Jim Doyle of bill to legalize the carrying of concealed weapons, putting the measure one step away from law and setting up a showdown in the Assembly.
The vote, 23 to 10, was above the two-thirds necessary to override the veto. Now, the bill heads to the Assembly, where the prospects for an override are still unclear.
In December, the bill passed the 99-member Assembly 64 to 32, a thin, veto-proof margin. A Republican was missing from that vote and a seat open at the time has been filled by a Republican.
After the Senate vote, Rep. Scott Gunderson (R-Waterford), one of the bill’s authors, said he believed those who had originally supported the bill – a tally that included six Aseembly Democrats – would continue to back it. Democratic leaders have said they will have enough votes to sustain Doyle’s veto.
-By Stacy Forster
Hot off the presses….
THURSDAY, Jan. 26, 2006, 12:23 p.m.
Senate overrides concealed weapons bill veto
Madison – The state Senate voted today to override a veto by Gov. Jim Doyle of bill to legalize the carrying of concealed weapons, putting the measure one step away from law and setting up a showdown in the Assembly.
The vote, 23 to 10, was above the two-thirds necessary to override the veto. Now, the bill heads to the Assembly, where the prospects for an override are still unclear.
In December, the bill passed the 99-member Assembly 64 to 32, a thin, veto-proof margin. A Republican was missing from that vote and a seat open at the time has been filled by a Republican.
After the Senate vote, Rep. Scott Gunderson (R-Waterford), one of the bill’s authors, said he believed those who had originally supported the bill – a tally that included six Aseembly Democrats – would continue to back it. Democratic leaders have said they will have enough votes to sustain Doyle’s veto.
-By Stacy Forster
A little more info about today…..
Quote:
After a very short debate, the state Senate voted to override Governor
Doyle’s veto of the Personal Protection Act. The vote was 23 to 10, one more
than was needed.The only Republican voting to sustain Doyle’s veto was Senator Luther Olsen.
Democrats voting to override the veto were Senators Julie Lassa, Russ
Decker, Bob Wirch, Jeff Plale and Roger Breske.Please take a few minutes to call these brave Democratic legislators to
thank them for their vote. Their contact information is:Senator Russ Decker (608)266-2502
[email protected]Senator Julie Lassa (608) 266-3123
[email protected]Senator Bob Wirch (888) 769-4724
[email protected]Senator Roger Breske (800) 334-8773
[email protected]Senator Jeff Plale (608) 266-7505
[email protected]We still face a tough fight in the Assembly, where Representatives John
Steinbrink and Terry Van Akkeren have not yet committed to a veto override.
The Assembly may vote as early as next Tuesday on the override, so it’s
important to keep the pressure on.If you haven’t already contacted Van Akkeren and Steinbrink, please do so.
If you know anyone who hasn’t contacted them, please urge them to do so.
This is especially important if you know anyone in Sheboygan (Van Akkeren’s
district) or southeastern Kenosha county (Steinbrink’s district).The contact information for these two senators is:
Representative John Steinbrink (608) 266-0455
[email protected]Representative Terry Van Akkeren (608) 266-0656
[email protected]The Assembly vote is the last step. It’s there where we will win or lose.
Let’s win!
As soon as the Assembly vote is scheduled, we’ll alert you.
Thanks,
The Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association
A little more info about today…..
Quote:
After a very short debate, the state Senate voted to override Governor
Doyle’s veto of the Personal Protection Act. The vote was 23 to 10, one more
than was needed.The only Republican voting to sustain Doyle’s veto was Senator Luther Olsen.
Democrats voting to override the veto were Senators Julie Lassa, Russ
Decker, Bob Wirch, Jeff Plale and Roger Breske.Please take a few minutes to call these brave Democratic legislators to
thank them for their vote. Their contact information is:Senator Russ Decker (608)266-2502
[email protected]Senator Julie Lassa (608) 266-3123
[email protected]Senator Bob Wirch (888) 769-4724
[email protected]Senator Roger Breske (800) 334-8773
[email protected]Senator Jeff Plale (608) 266-7505
[email protected]We still face a tough fight in the Assembly, where Representatives John
Steinbrink and Terry Van Akkeren have not yet committed to a veto override.
The Assembly may vote as early as next Tuesday on the override, so it’s
important to keep the pressure on.If you haven’t already contacted Van Akkeren and Steinbrink, please do so.
If you know anyone who hasn’t contacted them, please urge them to do so.
This is especially important if you know anyone in Sheboygan (Van Akkeren’s
district) or southeastern Kenosha county (Steinbrink’s district).The contact information for these two senators is:
Representative John Steinbrink (608) 266-0455
[email protected]Representative Terry Van Akkeren (608) 266-0656
[email protected]The Assembly vote is the last step. It’s there where we will win or lose.
Let’s win!
As soon as the Assembly vote is scheduled, we’ll alert you.
Thanks,
The Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association
Done! 
Done!
Cool! 
Cool!
The bill was vetoed!!! 
The final vote was 64 to 34. I have to say thank you to Terry Van Akkeren and John Steinbrink for not voting for the bill. 
Sorry John…It wasn’t ment to be in the STATE OF WISCONSIN!
The bill was vetoed!!! The final vote was 64 to 34. I have to say thank you to Terry Van Akkeren and John Steinbrink for not voting for the bill. Sorry John…It wasn’t ment to be in the STATE OF WISCONSIN!
Krisko;
Can I ask you why you want the people to be disarmed?
Krisko;
Can I ask you why you want the people to be disarmed?
As I answered to Slop read the posts I had before on the subject.
As I answered to Slop read the posts I had before on the subject.
No, don’t take me wrong……..It wasn’t a jab or anything. If I recall correctly, you’re a cop, so I was just asking, looking for a generic answer in the eyes of a cop……..That’s all……
No, don’t take me wrong……..It wasn’t a jab or anything. If I recall correctly, you’re a cop, so I was just asking, looking for a generic answer in the eyes of a cop……..That’s all……
OK:
I just read the previous post on this……….Got it all……..THANKS!!!!!
OK:
I just read the previous post on this……….Got it all……..THANKS!!!!!
When will Doyle be outsted? 
It’s the American way…and I don’t cry over spilled milk.
I’m happy for ya Krisko and anyone else that didn’t want it.
This is the first I heard of it…it’s going to be interesting to see how many states are without it the next time the bill comes around.
When will Doyle be outsted?
It’s the American way…and I don’t cry over spilled milk.
I’m happy for ya Krisko and anyone else that didn’t want it.
This is the first I heard of it…it’s going to be interesting to see how many states are without it the next time the bill comes around.
Let the minority of unarmed supporters celebrate for now.
If Wis holds out they will be in a very small group.
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