I agree Luke, when I used to shoot at the archery range The owner Kelly knew Dan Collora personaly and hunted with him. I got the story on how he raises and bottles the scent too keep it fresh until (thawed), this is the guy who shot the worlds record with bow about 6 years ago in southern Iowa. He has his own deer herd and puts them under lights to shorten the day to bring thier systems into estrous. They are put in private pens that have a bottom tray that collects the Does urin when shes in total estrous and not befor and not after. The pans are cleaned after every collection from each doe and when they have another doe come in they do the same until all the does are collected from and collection is at the end of this does cycle. This keeps the system as clean as possible so far. They then filter this urin with a non scent filtering system to strain out all the sediment from defacating if they do, and bottle it into plastic bottles and it is frozen immediately, they have worked out all the bugs from thier collection system and process and have it down to a science. One thing about this guys way of doing it, is once the does are done with giving thats all they collect and thats all they have to sell. They don’t water it down or cut it in any way, his doe pee is the real thing. Ive used mrs doe pee and when you open a bottle you can tell its the real thing.
I know a few things work to lay the scent down and to me and others around here as long as its human scent free it will work. You have too keep the bottle of doe pee as cold as possible to keep it from going to an ammonia smell and it dosen’t take long to do that because its already body waist. This is part of the reason I like to wait until around the first of November and keep the bottle of doe pee in my outside coat pocket, I go out of my way to make sure the bottle stays cool all day. I’ve seen a couple bucks when the moisture on the ground was good come across a scent trail and follow it like a blood hound the other direction because the scent was stonger from where this hunter started and weakened to his tree stand. Its a good idea too freshen up the drag rag every 20 to 30 yards in my opinion and it only takes a few drops to sweeten the rag up a little.
When im too my stand I bring a clean baggie and put it into it because the older bag may have already spoiled and gone too ammonia if its border line cold even though it may not smell like it.
One thing about a doe and this information is from a guy I used to shoot 3’ds with is that a doe is constantly peeing when shes in heat and thier hoofs are wet most of the time from this pee and totally loaded with scent. Jamie, the guy that raises these deer, said that one of the best ways to collect this urin is from a spot that the doe just peed in, just scrap it up off the ground and keep it frozen until you use it. Jamie now bottles his own from his deer and this is what im going to use this year, he lives just 5 minutes from town here so its fresh. If I want to know if the does are in heat yet I can just call Jamie or go and see him and ask him what his does are doing. The bucks are ready to go here but not the does, they will be in a few weeks.
Theres a new scent laying system thats just been patented and manufactured, I don’t remember the companys name but this scent stick is filled with the amount of pee you want to lay down. The stick is about an inch wide and 4 ft. long and all you do is push it on the ground and the wick on the bottom of the stick applys the pee when and where you want it and its the same amount every time so theres no trail weekening, its the same from end to end of a scent trail. They have them forsale at Gander here in town and are anufactured in Farefield Iowa very close to where the worlds record bowkill was shot. I seen him the other night at Gander and he put on a demonstration on red rosin paper on the floor and they do look like they will work just great, im going to buy one and thier $20 here. Call Gander and maybe they have them at all the stores now.
I know tinks 69 is good because i’ve heard too many good things about it from guys over the years that have bowhunted for along time, i’ve never used it because I use Mrs doepee. I totally agree with not hunting with a scent from anywhere but where your from if you can find it. If a guy can’t Id use a scent that come from deer thats been fed corn, beans or alfalfa because deer can’t tell if its been planted or not and chances are they have wandered over a bean or corn field if there isn’t that many. For the areas that don’t have these fields I don’t know what to do but would try using tinks69.
Scent trails do work and they have to be put down right, I’ll never forget this buck coming across this perticular trail. He had his nose to the ground and was going bananas trying to find this does trail that he could sniff in the air, he was darned near on a run. When he found the trail he almost lost his footing with his nose totally on the ground and in a few seconds he was gone. He followed this trail for about 75 yrds on almost a full trot just like a bluetick, this buck was determined to find this doe. Scent trails to me do work and have to be put down right with fresh doe pee that hasen’t gone bad yet.
Were they downwind of you when they came in? It’s kind of like when using a decoy. Some deer can’t stand it (usually does)
