West Allis WI Police follow their own laws?

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #210053

    I haven’t been following WI’s carry laws much unless they make the news as they did with the “open carry picnics” that were held a while back.

    This email was sent to me (and many others) today from the WCCA, a group that supports Concealed Carry in WI.

    I found it interesting and thought I would share.

    How does that disclaimer go?



    Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of IDo or myself.

    ***********************

    A lawsuit has been filed in Federal court against the City of West Allis by Brad Krause, the man arrested at gunpoint while planting a tree.

    THIS COULD HAVE BEEN YOU

    In August of 2008 Brad was enjoying the summer weather by planting a tree in his yard when a neighbor called the West Allis Police Department wondering if a person can wear a holstered firearm within city limits. Police responded by sending two squad cars to Brad’s residence where they found him digging a hole for the tree lying on the ground next to him. The officers immediately drew their weapons and handcuffed him at gunpoint.

    IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE FOR YOU–AND CERTAINLY NOT FOR POLICE

    After forty-five minutes of standing in his yard trying to figure out what crime they could charge him with, police finally decided to place Brad under arrest for Disorderly Conduct While Armed. Brad had to post bail and was to appear in front of the Drug and Gun unit Monday morning. Since the arrest occurred late Friday night, there wasn’t even time for him to obtain an attorney.

    After reviewing the case the District Attorney’s office for Wisconsin decided to postpone, and later drop the charges. The City of West Allis, however, had no intention of letting Brad–nor anyone else for that matter–exercise their lawful right to carry a sidearm for personal protection, and continued to prosecute even though no law was broken.

    At the first hearing an officer testified he saw a man with a holstered sidearm planting a tree, so he called for backup. When a second officer arrived, both drew their guns and pointed them at Brad while shouting orders with fingers on the triggers, ready to plant the environmentalist six feet under. Brad’s attorney asked what provoked the officers to use deadly force in such an uneventful situation. Both officers answered, “He had a gun.”

    Other than re-confirming the fact that Brad was lawfully armed, the prosecution offered no other evidence, basing the entire case on lawful possession being unlawful because…they said so. Judge Paul Murphy found Brad not guilty and dismissed the charges.

    The case helped convince Wisconsin’s Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen to issue a memorandum on April 20th, 2009 to law enforcement stating open carry is lawful, and in the absence of any other suspicion of criminal activity, is not by itself disorderly conduct. Van Hollen also advised police what constitutes lawful detention–a “Terry stop,” and also unlawful contact with armed citizens–a Fourth Amendment violation.

    WEST ALLIS REFUSES TO OBEY STATE LAWS

    What makes this case so serious is the extreme extent to which the city of West Allis has gone to make Brad’s life as difficult as possible, even after Judge Murphy exonerated him. The city knows for certain Brad never broke any law by carrying a sidearm and that he continues to not break any state firearms law, yet police continue to closely monitor him as if he were a dangerous criminal. (If only they would expend those resources to monitor real criminals that closely!)

    Police have repeatedly warned Brad of another arrest if he does not bend to their will and stop exercising his statutory authority under Wisconsin Statute 941.23 to openly carry a gun, which is further protected by Article 1 Section 25 of the Wisconsin Constitution. Compounding the problem for the city, state law preempts them from regulating firearms (Wisconsin Statute 66.0409).

    West Allis solution to circumvent your rights and state law was to create a defacto carry ban through their police powers by creating a “police policy” to unlawfully threaten and arrest citizens who lawfully carry. West Allis Deputy Chief Rick Balistrieri brazenly admitted to having this police policy immediately after Judge Paul Murphy’s verdict was issued in Brad’s case. Deputy Chief Balistrieri said Judge Murphy’s verdict finding Brad innocent won’t change the way his officers respond to similar calls regarding lawfully armed citizens.

    THUGS WITH BADGES

    The police acted out their threat in a very public attempt to arrest Brad a second time, just one day after the Attorney General issued his memorandum on open carry, even after Brad made repeated attempts to reach a reasonable understanding with several West Allis government agencies. This time, Brad was being interviewed on the sidewalk in front of his home by a Milwaukee TV station when two West Allis squads suddenly stopped in the middle of the street with all their blinky lights on.

    The news camera captured the interrogation as three more squads provided back up support for the dangerous situation police created for Brad–and for themselves. Officers said that had the TV crew not been there they would have put Brad face down on the ground at gunpoint and decided if they would allow him to exercise his rights, or put him back in jail.

    This example of the repeated police interaction with Brad makes it clear the police ignored state law, the Attorney General’s clear instruction on proper police contact with a lawfully armed citizen, police training on specific conditions when it is proper (or not) for police to use lethal force, and the recent decision of the court finding the police wrongfully arrested Brad. No, this was not a case of ignorant police officers flying by the seat of their pants; this is instead proof of the West Allis police department continuing their defacto carry ban to unlawfully disarm citizens.

    Apparently, the city and police view citizens who exercise their liberty as a threat to the power and control they have seized over the lives of their subjects. Brad said that after two long years the city has not fundamentally changed its policing policy and has left him no choice but to file a complaint in support of his civil rights.

    WHO ISN’T INVOLVED!

    Are you wondering why the gun organizations that keep begging for money to defend “gun rights” haven’t told you about this? They’ve said for years “nothing will happen until we get a new governor.” That idea was turned upside-down when the state’s case against Brad fell apart and the city’s case was crushed. The local and national news agencies, not the “gun rights” groups, were the ones to cover the story.

    “Gun rights” groups aren’t about “your rights,” they’re about guns and money and politics, which is why they still make empty promises and ask for more and more of your money. While they continue to try to blow smoke up your skirt, Brad has been playing whack-a-mole with his own and surrounding communities that pop up with illegal bans on your rights. We need to back the guy doing the job and getting results, not those who keep promising to do something somewhere in the future–and only if you give them more money!

    WHERE ARE ALL THE LAWYERS WHEN ONE IS NEEDED?

    It is no coincidence that Brad had to prepare and file his own lawsuit, at his own expense. Federal law makes it exceedingly difficult to recover damages and restore a person’s life and liberty when the government decides to take them away, and most attorneys fear being seen as “fighting the system” of which they are a part. Brad has to continue to educate himself on federal law and bear the cost and burden of bringing a case against the establishment, something few people are willing to do. This is not the as-seen-on-TV one-hour show where the good guy wins in the last seven minutes, but the real life justice system where you’re the little guy with the deck stacked against you by the political ruling class with an un-ending stream of your heavily taxed income to use against you.

    RESTORING “LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL” COSTS A LOT, FOR A REASON

    Civil lawsuits are very expensive and every step of the way costs more money. The city has an endless amount of money and lawyers. Brad has neither, but he does have a good case that needs to be fought. Even if you don’t live in West Allis, you are a stakeholder in this case. You have one person who is literally willing to fight city hall, but he can’t do it successfully by himself.

    I am asking for your financial help, not for the Wisconsin Patriots but for Brad Krause. Think of this as an investment you can make that will send a strong message across the state which should put an end to unlawful police harassment. A win and substantial damages will be noticed by every Police Chief, Mayor, City Council member, and the Legislature, which is why winning this case is in every liberty-loving person’s best interest.

    Should Brad prevail, he will return contributions made for his legal assistance from any money that he receives from the City of West Allis. Brad’s win is also your win, and Brad’s loss is also your loss.

    Supporting Brad with a contribution increases the chance that he can win this case for everyone.

    SEVERAL WAYS TO JOIN THE FIGHT

    A legal assistance account has been set up at Wells Fargo Bank (which supports our rights and welcomes lawfully armed customers) under account number 1916044413. Freedom may not be free, but you can defend your rights (without being arrested) in one of several ways:

    – Wells Fargo customers can transfer money on-line for free.

    – To make an electronic funds transfer from another bank, use Wells Fargo routing number 075911988.

    – You can deposit a check or cash at any Wells Fargo office by referencing Brad Krause and account number 1916044413.

    – You can even use PayPal using the e-mail address [email protected], selecting the “Personal” tab then “Other”.

    Please be sure to inform Brad ([email protected]) of your contribution including the date made, the amount, and your contact information (include your preferred e-mail address). PayPal users can include this information in the comments section.

    PLEASE forward this email to everyone you know who may be willing to help Brad stand up for our rights! Don’t wait for a hollow promise of “tomorrow” when someone is succeeding today.

    REFERENCES

    Attorney General memorandum on open carry & the West Allis case:

    http://www.doj.state.wi.us/news/files/FinalOpenCarryMemo.pdf

    Wisconsin Statute 941.23:

    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0941.pdf

    Article 1 Section 25 of the Wisconsin Constitution

    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/wisconst.pdf

    Wisconsin Statute 66.0409:

    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0066.pdf

    WISN 12 interview and near arrest:

    http://www.wisn.com/news/19235901/detail.html

    Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel article reporting the civil claim:

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/101340644.html

    It’s about liberty, your liberty.

    Gene German

    Minnesota DPS Certified – Senior AACFI Firearms Instructor

    ragerunner
    Winona, MN
    Posts: 699
    #74296

    While I’m all for the right to carry, something seems a little ‘fishy’ about this story. I googled his name and found that he had a little trouble with the law along the lines of domestic abuse in his past. Maybe the police know something that others don’t.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #74267

    Thanks for the heads up Rage. It appears there’s a $4000. judgment outstanding also.

    Not that this would prevent him or others from legally carrying a weapon, but it certainly make a person question if they really want to send any cash his way.

    btomlin
    Albia, IA
    Posts: 185
    #75354

    Why not just ask the man?

    Gene,

    Thank you for bringing the website to my attention. There are many people named Brad Krause in Wisconsin, most of which are not me. There’s a TV anchor, Internet sports reporter, engineer (electrical, I think), musician, and a TV personality with a different name that I’m told I look like. I don’t know any of them personally, although I did talk to the engineer–it’s an odd feeling to talk with someone of the same name, about the same age, body type, hair color, with a similar education, who only lives a few miles away.

    That’s not an exhaustive list, either. I have the distinct feeling there are a lot more Brad Krauses out there.

    Regarding the information on the website, you can Google most any name and find “something.” I wasn’t married until recently, and hadn’t lived with anyone prior to that. (The wife and I are doing fine, by the way.) I don’t have any money judgements against me, although the West Allis court case was rather draining. Several people named Brad Krause owe child support, but I don’t have any kids. I also was not the one that caught that really big fish.

    If you do relay part or all of this letter, please include the fact that I am not a “civil rights activist” or something to that nature. I see comments similar to this on Internet forums and newspaper comment sections, but don’t have any of that background to help me. I’m an average guy who wants to be safe, just like everyone else. The section in your email about “this could be you” is really true, I never expected anything like this to happen, especially not while planting a tree–that one still gets me.

    If people have questions they can always send me an e-mail. The one I get most often is probably, “Did you get your gun back?”

    Hope this clears things up,
    Brad Krause

    Brad’s email is at the bottom of the original post.

    Please be more careful about what you say about people who you do not personally know. I do personally know Brad, Google doesn’t.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #74725

    Thanks for responding Gene. I have a couple follow up questions I’ll be emailing him.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18127
    #75217

    If people have questions they can always send me an e-mail. The one I get most often is probably, “Did you get your gun back?”

    Well, did he??

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 21875
    #75201

    Why not ask the man ? I am no expert, but Gene’s letter looks like one a lawyer wrote and is copied and pasted to the various sites that this story shows up…. for drumming up more support $$$$… Why wouldn’t the guy accused post on here ??? Rather than through someone else….???

    BradKrause
    Posts: 2
    #85741

    Brian, thanks for the e-mail, to save a step I’ll respond here.

    Suzuki: My sidearm was returned by the West Allis police in a brown lunch bag two days after the second hearing, in less than favorable condition.

    big G: Gene wrote the letter.

    big G: I don’t usually post on Internet forums because unknown persons make unrelated, false accusations and then demand I defend against them.
    —–

    I do appreciate the support many people have shown during the West Allis defense hearings, and continued support for our rights in the civil case. Since there is a lot of work involved, people such as the Wisconsin Patriots have offered to handle some of it, such as composing a much more informative and well-written letter than I could manage.

    Obviously filing a claim in Federal court is not a straight-forward, simple procedure that a person can take on in a few evenings after work, and if you think about it, it is not something any rational person wants to be tasked with.

    If your right to be safe is important to you and you would like to help, I would definitely appreciate it.

    –Brad Krause

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #85782

    Thanks for stopping in to post Brad.

    Since we’re the full state away from West Allis, this is all news to us. Then, when hearing the police are running a muck? Police enforce the law. Sure there’s the bad egg out there, but the whole dept?

    Watching the link to the video on the Journal’s website pretty much tells the tale. I think the West Allis Police Dept should come to Ido and defend themselves.

    I know there’s many of us along the MN/WI border that are looking forward to the day when the State of WI conforms to the Bill of Rights.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 21875
    #85842

    I like the coverage this is getting. I also thought the comment at the end, by a citizen, “If you need to strap a gun on your hip, everytime you step outside, that’s a problem…” this person needs to realize, you don’t “need” to everytime, just the one time that you “really need” it… can they predict when that is gonna be ??? I think the news channel did a nice job on this story… talk about perfect timing with the police showing up

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59944
    #85844

    If we need our credit card every time we stepped outside…we have a problem.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18127
    #85900

    Thanks and good luck Brad!

    chris-tuckner
    Hastings/Isle MN
    Posts: 12318
    #87077

    Quote:


    Thanks and good luck Brad!


    Ditto!

    I always liked the line “I carry a gun ‘cuz a cop is too heavy!”

    BradKrause
    Posts: 2
    #87217

    In Wisconsin we only have unconcealed carry, and from the reactions I’ve witnessed, carrying decreases the potential for criminals to commit crimes. Similarly, an FBI study showed criminals greatest fear is an armed victim, because getting shot hurts. This seems to be a win for both parties, with fewer victims and fewer crimes on someone’s record.

    Thanks for the luck,
    Brad

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