Most city car thefts are done to obtain a vehicle to commit other crimes out of. These stolen vehicles are rarely delivered to a chop shop for cash.
Just because someone posts on TikTok the ease of stealing a Kia or Hyundai – you run out and steal one ?? Where is your basic moral compass ?
MN Republicans basically said stop blaming the victims whether they are people or a company and hold criminals accountable for their actions.
Maybe if it was possible for a larger portion of the population to make a living wage, crime wouldn’t be such an issue.
It is very possible. No education needed, paid training even. Jobs are open all over the place.[/quote]
Yeah! Unless you don’t wanna work forty hours a week.
Next lawsuit will be how car companies have made it too easy to take catalytic converters. Or would that be against the government for making the car companies use catalytic converters? Always go for the deeper pockets. What a joke.
To answer the OP question. No it is not right. Hold criminals accountable for their actions.
To the original topic….
I say no but then again I have read about some pretty dumb people suing and getting money for some real dumb stuff.
So not that surprising.
There is a guy suing buffalo wild wings because the boneless chicken wings he bought he felt were just chicken nuggets. First of all boneless chicken wings are not chicken wings at all and this guy is a complete idiot. Second of all, he will likely win and then we all pay.
I would never leave my car running with unlocked doors anywhere. Ever. That’s just an open invitation for theft.
I just have to ask, do you ever tie your boat to the dock with a key in the ignition while you go park your vehicle at a launch??
obvious solution, but common sense has vacated the human race
obvious solution, but common sense has vacated the human race
So true Randy!
I just have to ask, do you ever tie your boat to the dock with a key in the ignition while you go park your vehicle at a launch??
No, absolutely not. If I can am in sight of it the whole time, then yes I will leave it there for a minute. If I have to walk a long ways and cannot keep my eyes on it, then no. Someone could theoretically snatch some gear though so your point is taken.
Most of the time my boat isn’t unattended at the dock anyways because someone is with me either getting the truck for me, or is with the boat at the dock.
I love the how the term “easy” is defined here. First you have to break out a window to get it, then tear off the column housing, then dig into the ignition with tools, and only then can you start it and drive it away.
Bottom line…no consequences and no fear is the obvious root cause.
Should banks leave their doors and vault unlocked at night?
A bank would be safe with me doing this. how about with you around it ?
Should women wear high heels, halter tops and mini skirts ???
I think the most major difference comparing leaving a boat unattended and your car running at a gas station is that most sportsmen are trustworthy and watch out for each other. There are the exceptions, but that cant be said about the knuckleheads in the cities.
I go into the gas station all the time with my truck running. My keys are in my pocket and if they drive off they wont get far because it will shut off.
I go into the gas station all the time with my truck running. My keys are in my pocket and if they drive off they wont get far because it will shut off.
I haven’t done any research on this but do you know how far that will get someone? For that reason, and because if I have my truck running at home and take off with the key on the counter how far I’d get.
I think the most major difference comparing leaving a boat unattended and your car running at a gas station is that most sportsmen are trustworthy and watch out for each other. There are the exceptions, but that cant be said about the knuckleheads in the cities.
Not long ago, I remember a story about someone leaving their fishing boat docked while they went to get their truck. It was a busy access, with lots of people around, in broad daylight. They came back to their boat and several high-end rod n reel setups were missing.
I’ve never heard of someone’s boat being stolen while they went to go park or retrieve their truck in the lot, but that doesn’t mean it can’t happen…anywhere. Not just in the cities either, anywhere at a public access.
While we’re on the subject of theft, always a good idea to lock your boat trailer and hitch while you’re parked in the lot and out fishing. I’ve heard horror stories of boat trailers being stolen while people are fishing.
I certainly wouldnt leave anything of value in view or not have my trailer and hitch locked at mille lacs. People have their trailers stolen all the time.
I love the how the term “easy” is defined here. First you have to break out a window to get it, then tear off the column housing, then dig into the ignition with tools, and only then can you start it and drive it away.
Bottom line…no consequences and no fear is the obvious root cause.
It’s incredibly easy, takes 2 minutes tops on the vehicles with this specific vulnerability. My coworker had her Kia stolen twice in one month, no joke. She had it back for like 3 days before it was stolen again. No windows smashed and the dash part peels back with little effort.
I’m not a fan of this litigation, but I also believe that the vehicle manufacturers should eliminate these back doors wherever possible. Maybe they already have, it’s not a story I’m following closely.
I haven’t done any research on this but do you know how far that will get someone? For that reason, and because if I have my truck running at home and take off with the key on the counter how far I’d get
You can go as far as you want as long as you dont shut it off. Not long ago took the womans car to work. She left it running for me didnt realize I had no keys til I got to work 20 miles later and the alert asked Are you sure you would like to turn off no remote detected.
My truck shuts off in one minute if the keys are not within range.
No I don’t think suing the car company is the correct move. But that is what you get when the AG and Hennepin County Attorney are political activists, who do not believe in prosecution of criminals, but instead blame the system that they now represent. Get what you vote for:
And here’s a nearly endless list of criminals spun back onto the street by these incompetent Govt Attorneys under charging them, Judges under sentencing them and MN Freedom Fund posting bail for the most heinous of criminals.
http://www.twitter.com/CrimeWatchMpls/status/1494081153984122885?s=20
Does it make sense for cities to sue store owners for leaving merchandise on the shelves out in the open? Why don’t they lock up all the shelves?
No, the criminals should be locked up for BREAKING THE LAW.
Had a secretary whose husband was from Pakistan. We got to talking about the open markets, the “siestas” they took in the afternoon and me asking questions about and closing and putting stuff away all the time and he just looked at me with an expression of “are you kidding” He said ‘We KNOW who the thieves are, they’re the ones with one less hand.
No I don’t think suing the car company is the correct move. But that is what you get when the AG and Hennepin County Attorney are political activists, who do not believe in prosecution of criminals, but instead blame the system that they now represent. Get what you vote for:
Agree! And here is another example from today’s news.
Why does enforcing the law require a degree in social work? So we just shut the place down? WTF?
“The amount of open drug use is the largest thing right now. Homelessness, as well. And we’re not social workers,” Timlin said.
http://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-uptown-transit-center-closing-temporarily
Uptown indoor transit hub closing temporarily amid public safety concerns
By Nick Longworth and Rose SchmidtPublished March 14, 2023 3:20PMUpdated 9:58PMMetro TransitFOX 9
Metro Transit officials detail closing bus shelters decision
A busy transit center along Hennepin Avenue in the heart of Uptown Minneapolis will close its indoor waiting area temporarily due to challenges involved with “property damage, litter, and other unwanted behaviors,” according to an announcement from Metro Transit.
MINNEAPOLIS (FOX 9) – Public safety is a big challenge right now for Metro Transit. As a result, transit officials have decided to temporarily close another indoor waiting area at a transit station.
The indoor waiting area on the east side of the Uptown Transit Station, a busy transit center along Hennepin Avenue in the heart of Uptown Minneapolis, will close beginning at 10 p.m. Wednesday.
Indoor waiting areas were built to shelter passengers waiting to catch the bus or train, but spokesperson Drew Kerr said other people are using the spaces, too, for unwanted behaviors.
“Over the last couple of years, these places have become more and more of a problem for us,” Kerr said. “There aren’t a lot of locations like this that are open right now for the public to just be and to stay warm. And that’s not what they’re intended for.”
Metro Transit officials said in an announcement Tuesday the closure of the Uptown station is also due to property damage and litter. The space will be reopened later in the year when contracted security officers are in place at the station and five other locations. Those stations include the Vertical Circulation Building/Central Station in downtown St. Paul, the Blue Line Lake Street/Midtown and Franklin Avenue stations, the Chicago-Lake Transit Center and the Brooklyn Center Transit Center.
The building near the Central Station in St. Paul already closed in December after a double homicide.
“There’s been a lot of frustrations around safety and different issues at these locations,” said Ryan Timlin, president of the Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1005.
The union representing the bus operators said many of them don’t feel safe inside either, as they face continued threats of violence on buses and other issues they want to see addressed.
“The amount of open drug use is the largest thing right now. Homelessness, as well. And we’re not social workers,” Timlin said.
Across the transit system, crime rose by 54 percent between 2021 and 2022. Metro Transit officials said last year, about a quarter of the calls for service were at the six stations where they’re bringing in security.
In the meantime, to help shield Uptown riders from the wind, they’ve added outside shelters and plan to make other improvements.
“What we’re doing is responding to things as they happen. This isn’t the elegant or perfect solution: closing facilities. This is not what we want to do, but it’s feels like it’s what we have to do right now in order to get things back on track,” Kerr said.
On Wednesday the Metropolitan Council has a vote on its agenda for a proposed contract that would bring additional security to the six locations.
If approved, security officers would be in place as early as this spring and would be there for a year if not longer, according to transit officials.
The initiative is part of Metro Transit’s Safety & Security Action Plan, which identifies nearly 40 actions to “improve conditions of its systems, training and supporting employees, and engaging customers and partners.”
As businesses continue to both open and close throughout the heart of Uptown in Minneapolis, Target announced Monday its Uptown location would close in May.
-J.
I love the how the term “easy” is defined here. First you have to break out a window to get it, then tear off the column housing, then dig into the ignition with tools, and only then can you start it and drive it away.
Yeah no. You’re living in the 1980s.
The whole problem is how easy it is to steal certain Hyundai and Kia vehicles without doing any of the stuff you mention. They are exploiting a combination of bad software and insecure hardware.
I believe YouTube took down the videos that show how to hack these cars, but maybe some are still up. The videos are still all over TickToc. Bottom line is it’s way too easy and Kia/Hyundai have resisted doing what the rest of the industry already does even though it would cost them less than $20 per vehicle.
Is it right that car thief’s are out there? Obviously not, but it’s not helping that 2 manufacturers refuse to do anything despite the fact that theft of their cars accounts for 40% of all car theft currently.
Is it right that car thief’s are out there? Obviously not, but it’s not helping that 2 manufacturers refuse to do anything despite the fact that theft of their cars accounts for 40% of all car theft currently.
Let the market sort it out. If the insurance providers had a upcharge on those brands less people would buy them which would result in the manufactures rectifying things. They resist because people want cheaper cars and are willing to take the chance. I’m always in favor of people having options.
JJ, in response to your article my question is……..Are the taxpayers on the hook for the additional security they are hiring? This of course would be in addition to the subsidy needed to keep the rails running in the first place. I was against rail in the beginning, now and in the future. It will never make a nickel and in many cases is costing money, forget about ever breaking even.
..Are the taxpayers on the hook for the additional security they are hiring?
My understanding is yes. Funded through the Metropolitan Council. The government agency where members are not elected but get to spend taxpayer money at will….. 
With all the electronics in cars and trucks there should be a code number you could dial that would disable your vehicle if its stolen.
t’s not helping that 2 manufacturers refuse to do anything despite the fact that theft of their cars accounts for 40% of all car theft currently.
The specific models are the lowest trim model Kia/Huyndai’s from 2015-2021, and even within those year/make/models the nicer trim models came with immobilizers. It was a dumb choice by the Manufacturers, but they can suffer the market consequences without government involvement. These same politicians (and that is what Ellison is), would also deride the lack of affordable vehicles in the market.
City problems
City problems
People, value, morals problem. Certainly not limited to cities.
Exacerbated in large population areas.
In the meantime, to help shield Uptown riders from the wind, they’ve added outside shelters and plan to make other improvements.
Only in the urban areas do people feel they need to be accommodated with inside type conditions while OUTSIDE 
Buy em a coat… provide shelter from the cold ANYWHERE
City problems
Assuming it’s Prescott Wisc. you live in. These crime grades are not all that impressive:
Is Prescott, WI Safe?
The B- grade means the rate of crime is about the same as the average US city. Prescott is in the 54th percentile for safety, meaning 46% of cities are safer and 54% of cities are more dangerous. This analysis applies to Prescott’s proper boundaries only. See the table on nearby places below for nearby cities.
The rate of crime in Prescott is 25.06 per 1,000 residents during a standard year. People who live in Prescott generally consider the southeast part of the city to be the safest.
Your chance of being a victim of crime in Prescott may be as high as 1 in 36 in the west neighborhoods, or as low as 1 in 42 in the southeast part of the city. See the section on interpreting the crime map, however, because comparing rates for crime or any other crime is not as intuitive as it may seem.
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