Tractors??? Deere or New Holland??

  • leinieman
    Chippewa Valley (Dunnville Bottoms)
    Posts: 1372
    #1244885

    I’ve been looking at getting a newer tractor (I have an old 9n Ford) and want something a bit newer so I was at the dealers checking out new ones. Wow power steering,and they don’t need a jump to start. I was looking at the John Deere 790 or maybe the New Holland TC30 . Anyone with any experiance with these machines? I am going to use it mainly for mowing trails, putting in deer food plots, firewood gathering, road maintance and messing around. The Deere seems to be a bit better built, but the New Holland has a couple more hp, and a little more room on the deck. Any dealers out there got any great deals going on? Steve

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4621
    #321780

    I’m no expert on the topic, as my dad uses an old 8N Ford just fine, but I have plenty of family members who do have Deere products and honestly, they all swear by ’em. If you feel the Deere is built better, don’t sacrifice that over 2hp. The Deere is still going to have plenty of power and likely all you’d ever need. I’d say that if the Deere can’t do it, the NH’s 2hp isn’t going to be the difference. I’d be more concerned about breakage than power. These things usually pack more “oomph” than some of it’s components can handle. I mean, tractors have enough to snort to wreck themselves, the implements, and you. So I’d go with the better construction as the most important issue. All the power in the world won’t aid the value of a broken tractor.

    Comfort…… is important if you’re going to spend much time in it. So, is it uncomfortable or is it just more roomy? If the controls are easily getting the way of each other or rubbing a leg……. it gets on the nerves! But the question is comfort. If you can work comfortably with the controls, do you need the extra space?

    Will both brands let you “test drive” at all? It’d be interesting to have a sampling of how each one feels to you when using it within your applications.

    Is width any concern for you? Stability was a strong suit of those old Fords on hilly terrain. I don’t know what the newer tractors are like. I haven’t worked one myself since 1983 and I’m sure they’ve changed some.

    Anyway…… all my relatives have gone to another brand over New Holland, but never seemed to talk poorly of them either. Most broken equipment was a result of neglect and they’d be critical of “why that guy doesn’t understand that.”

    I guess if I were to offer anything concrete, I’d go talk to someone that owns one of the models you’re interested in and get their opinions and satisfaction levels. I don’t think you could be any more thorough than talking to experienced consumers.

    Good luck buddy!

    ptc
    Apple Valley/Isle, MN
    Posts: 614
    #321861

    How much newer do you want to go? I was driving up to the U.P. a couple weeks ago and saw a pretty nice JD 420 with a loader and a back blade. It would work very well for the application you are talking about. I think it is a ’58. An old tractor in good condition can be a great value. I can not recall exactly where the 420 was but it was parked next to a convience store somewhere between Clear Lake and Cumberland.

    That said… your 9N is a pretty darn good tractor for your application. What problems are you having with it?

    If you are picking between the Deere and the New Holand, go with Deere. You’ll be able to sell that tractor in 10 years for more than you paid for it originally. There are not many things you can say that about, but it is true for green tractors.

    Now if money today is a bigger factor than resale value, take a look at Yanmar. You’ll save some cash, and I am pretty sure that the Deere compact tractors are made by Yanmar. I do know for sure that the 790’s engine is a Yanmar, but i think the entire unit is made by Yanmar.

    If it were me, I’d try to fix the 9N. After that, I’d go find the 420. You’d get a nice machine and be able to listen to that sweet 2 cylinder sound while you worked. John Deere 420 Specs

    If you are interested in salvaging the 9N feel free to PM me with any questions. If jump starting is your only problem that is easy to fix.

    leinieman
    Chippewa Valley (Dunnville Bottoms)
    Posts: 1372
    #321864

    Thanks for the input guys, my tractor is about a 47 model. It does need to be rebuilt which I know I could have it done cheaper than buying a new tractor but even if I spent 2000 on rebuilding it I would still have a 47 model tractor with no bucket and still not as reliable. Mine has the original 6 volt system with the distributer in the front which I think could be converted to 12 volt. The new compact diesels have a lot of power in the 27 to 30 hp range. I think mine when new was a 22hp. What I’m thinking of is a new tractor, with loader, a 61 inch bucket,a ballast box, and a new pallet fork front lift for the loader to move small logs.I have driven the 790, and used the loader and it was pretty nice. Like I said it was a little tighter getting on and off as it is a gear shift tractor and the gear shift is on the floor. The New Hollands is up out of the way by the steering wheel. I will drive that one tomorrow,.

    ptc
    Apple Valley/Isle, MN
    Posts: 614
    #321875

    If it is more power you want, you can get a lot more power on a reliable machine for the kind of money you’d be talking about. CHECK THIS ONE OUT The 2640 was one heck of a tractor. This one looks like it is paired with a 146 loader and that is a very strong combination. Now if you are going to do much mowing the loader on this machine sticks out quite a bit so if you are in tight spaces that might be a bit of a pain.

    I know this if you go with something like this 2640 you won’t be frustrated by a lack of power…

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