kicker motor fuel line

  • Nitrodog
    Posts: 852
    #1236960

    I am thinking of getting a kicker motor for the boat. I was wondering how to run a fuel line to the kicker motor from my inboard fuel tank? Thanks Jeff

    jhalfen
    Posts: 4179
    #733225

    An easy way to do this is to cut the fuel line running to your main motor, add a brass T, and then run lines from the T to your two motors. Have a primer bulb for each motor between the motor and the T.

    This is what I did when I added a T8 to my crestliner a couple of years ago. Works just fine!

    Nitrodog
    Posts: 852
    #733226

    Thanks for the help Jason greatly appreciated!

    mwal
    Rosemount,MN
    Posts: 1054
    #733314

    I would recommend using a t with a valve. If you use just the check valves on the primer bulb and one malfunctions and you suck air into the line you can blow your motor. I wouldn’t trust a check valve in a bulb unless you replace the primer bulbs frequently.

    Mwal

    splitshot
    Rosemount, MN
    Posts: 544
    #733319

    For what it’s worth,… I would also use “metal” parts rather than a plastic “T”. Been-there/done-that. It seems to be an issue of “when” you have a problem, not “if” on the plastics. ….And I know I’m not the only one having some kind of history with this issue!
    Also,…. use a good quality hose. The cheap no-name brands always have problems with the check valve going bad in the hose ball. Again,… Hard learning on my part – twice!!!
    Splitshot

    docfrigo
    Wisconsin
    Posts: 1570
    #733330

    My fuel-water seperator has two outlets, so one to kicker and one to main motor. If you don’t have one, might be a good addition anyways. My local boat guy did it for me, was not a major undertaking by any means, not all gas is “pure” gas.
    yes, Jason–‘gas’ is really a liquid (sheesh, chemistry guys).

    nick
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 4977
    #733336

    Quote:


    My fuel-water seperator has two outlets, so one to kicker and one to main motor. If you don’t have one, might be a good addition anyways. My local boat guy did it for me, was not a major undertaking by any means, not all gas is “pure” gas.
    yes, Jason–‘gas’ is really a liquid (sheesh, chemistry guys).


    dandorn
    M.I.N.N.E.S.O.T.A.
    Posts: 3249
    #733343

    Quote:


    My fuel-water seperator has two outlets, so one to kicker and one to main motor.


    My fuel line Tee’s after the fuel/water separator.

    Is this incorrect?? Dealer installed…plastic Tee!

    nick
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 4977
    #733357

    Well it depends, I’m not sure it’s incorrect, but it’s probably not the best way, I can’t say for sure since I haven’t done it yet, but in theory, everything you have spliced into the gas line causes restriction, that plastic t causes some restriction, pulling it right off the gas filter I would think you’d get the least restriction, I guess I’m always leary about gas restrictions running a bigger 2 stroke motor.

    All assuming you filter has two outlets too, most of them do that I’ve seen.

    And I think plastic is ok, but it tends to get brittle and weaken over time, unlike metal, which I’m sure will even outlive your fuel lines.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #733360

    Quote:


    Quote:


    My fuel-water seperator has two outlets, so one to kicker and one to main motor.


    My fuel line Tee’s after the fuel/water separator.

    Is this incorrect?? Dealer installed…plastic Tee!


    Personally I wouldn’t worry about the plastic tee all that much. All my boats have been done with a plastic tee downstream of the main checkball coming from the fuel tank. I can’t recall ever having any issues with that setup on over a half dozen boats.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #733366

    Quote:


    I would recommend using a t with a valve. If you use just the check valves on the primer bulb and one malfunctions and you suck air into the line you can blow your motor.


    Never heard that one before.

    One of my old boats from a few years back had a valve. Nothing worse that forgetting to switch the valve after trolling. Start the motor, put the throttle down and bluuuhhhhhh!!!! Can’t tell you how many time that happened. Kinda dangerous too if you have something like a barge coming at you!!!

    I switched to a “T” fitting, no problems.

    -J.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #733367

    Quote:


    My fuel-water seperator has two outlets, so one to kicker and one to main motor.


    I’m seeing most boats are rigged that way from the factory now. It’s really a good way to go and a cheap upgrade if needed.

    -J.

    fireline
    Rochester
    Posts: 813
    #733469

    I have a 1996 Mercury 135 with carb’s . does anyone know if that motor has a fuel-water seperator with the two outlets ?

    nick
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 4977
    #733478

    Probably not, though some companies are installing them from the factory, generally speaking they are an aftermarket add-on , you should be able to find one at any marine dealer, they range from $20-$100. I have a raccor brand on my boat, it’s the spendier model, but I liked that mine has a clear bowl so I could see if I was getting some water, unlike a cheaper model.

    If you traced your fuel line from the tank to the motor, you’d see it.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #733507

    I agree with Nick, probably not. Here’s what to look for. This is a pick of the “Under the hood” filter. This is on a Merc 150 Opti. I’m also showing the bilge mounted filter with the 2 outlets. I only use one line, no kicker. But it’s ready to add a line if needed.

    -J.



    Nitrodog
    Posts: 852
    #733536

    Would I have two outlets on a 2003 135 optimax?

    dandorn
    M.I.N.N.E.S.O.T.A.
    Posts: 3249
    #733539

    Quote:


    Would I have two outlets on a 2003 135 optimax?


    The outlets are on the fuel/water separator. Do you have
    a separator already installed?
    See Jon’s last pic.
    Jon actually has two separators.

    Hope that helped.

    Nitrodog
    Posts: 852
    #733540

    I have one that is mounted on the motor(like the first pic.)

    dandorn
    M.I.N.N.E.S.O.T.A.
    Posts: 3249
    #733541

    I doubt that one has a second outlet and even if it did it

    would be pretty hard to run a fuel line from it to a kicker

    motor.

    You could install a Tee and then add an aftermarket separator and then run the outlet to the kicker since

    your main already has a separator installed.

    Or you could double it up like Jon J. has and maybe not

    have to replace the separator inside the main as often

    as you would without the secondary filter.

    Do you replace both of yours annually Jon?

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #733551

    On the first pic I was showing fireline what to look for on his motor. There is no tee off the motor mounted filter.

    On the second pic, I was showing what an filter with 2 outlet looks like. This would be similar to an after market add on. This is what I would add if I was going to split a line off the gas tank to the kicker. Many new boats come with this type of filter standard.

    I change them every other season and pull/drain them before storage.

    -J.

    nick
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 4977
    #733584



    Here’s mine, not the best pic, you can see two inlets on the left and two outlets on the right.

    Filter is yearly, unless you put on mucho hours, I think a 100 hours or so is about the idea of whne to change them.

    Note: that is the non see through bowl filter, I swapped the filter for the raccor model, didn’t have to change the inlet/outlet piece.

    Tom P.
    Whitehall Wi.
    Posts: 3546
    #733844

    If you look at the bottom of the enigne mounted filter in Jon Jordans pic there is a moisture senser that sends an alarm if there becomes too much water in the filter. All Optis come standard this way.

    Eric Rehberg
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 3071
    #734041

    Like others have mentioned before, the easiest, quickest, and least expensive is to just add a T and another fuel line with a primer bulb. A slightly better way and a little nicer looking way would be to add the seperator and run the second line off of that. It is also a little added insurence for fuel pressure issues and if a line ever cracks or breaks after the seperator you still have the other motor to use.

    Just my .02

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