Your MN Legislature set to steal funds from Outdoor Fund for other pusposes

  • Paulski
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    “Ever Wonder Why There Are No Democrats On Mount Rushmore ? "
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    #1527816

    I am surprised there is no chatter about this.

    Although in all honesty, this is exactly why I refused to support it years ago, as for the most part you cannot trust our legislature / Gov any farther than you can throw them.

    From what I read, this would not be a temporary, but permanent fund shift.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59642
    #1527821

    We’ll be seeing this each year for another 20 years. Each year it’s the same thing…free money. There are laws in place. But that doesn’t mean they can’t change them to find access.

    mplspug
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    Palmetto, Florida
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    #1527826

    Same thing down here. Last November money dedicated to land acquisition was voted into the constitution. You know, to keep the land away from developers. Already legislators claiming we already have enough land.

    suzuki
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    Woodbury, Mn
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    #1527830

    When you operate a card house pyramid scheme economy like ours there’s no other choice.

    Buzz
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    Minneapolis MN
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    #1527833

    Do you have a bill number?

    Dutchboy
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    Central Mn.
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    #1527841

    When you operate a card house pyramid scheme economy like ours there’s no other choice.

    There is plenty of choice. Two come to mind. Follow the law as written including the clear interpretation and intent of the Legacy as voted upon. Second figure out how to make and keep a budget. It’s really not that tough. The thousands of tax payers you want to steal the money from live with a budget every year.

    I’m also tired of hearing that people voted against it because “they knew this would happen.” Big whoop, what about the millions already poured into helping the waters & woods? It’s money that would have never been available in these amounts.

    It’s a law now, fight to keep it the way it was intended when the majority got it passed.

    Brian Klawitter
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    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59642
    #1527871

    Dutch, I voted against it. Not because St. Paul would try and steal it which we all knew, but because we are already paying into “a fund”.

    Since I’m unwilling become more involved, I wish I would have voted for it…but would have like the Constitution to have added….

    “Anyone trying to steal this money would be eliminated from office.”

    Or publicly flogged depending on my mood that day.

    Dutchboy
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    Central Mn.
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    #1527873

    Flogging, tar & feathers, public humiliation….it all works for me.

    Paulski
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    “Ever Wonder Why There Are No Democrats On Mount Rushmore ? "
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    #1527891

    Do you have a bill number?

    I did not find a bill number, but the below quote is always nice to see from an elected official. Evidently he did not take an oath of office …..

    “I don’t know whether it’s constitutional, but we’ve got to try,” said Rep. David Dill, DFL-Crane Lake”

    Rep. Dan Fabian, R-Roseau is also supporting the money grab

    big_g
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    Isle, MN
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    #1527923

    I didn’t think the legislature could change/remove something in the Constitution with a bill ? FWIW, (I also had the foresight to vote NO, because this shi7 would happen.. I remember it took pawlenty less than 1 year after it passed, to cut funding from the general fund, because the taxpayers supplemented the causes by voting YES…) doah

    BigWerm
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    SW Metro
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    #1527950

    The Constitution and it’s Amendments are constantly under attack, and misguided interpretation Big_G. You’ve likely heard about a lot of them, the 2nd amendment has been a hot topic for decades.

    BigWerm
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    SW Metro
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    #1527958

    I recommend everyone read the link because this is one where I can see both sides having a legitimate argument. The Heritage Fund has been acquiring 10’s of thousands of acres, a lot of those acres were previously taxable land and is not once it is purchased via Legacy funds. Currently those lost taxes to the county are covered by Payment in Lieu Taxes (PILT) from the General fund. This proposal would shift that obligation from the General Fund paying the PILT to the Legacy fund. Part of me thinks the Legacy fund should shoulder the full expense of acquiring these lands. The other side obviously is once the Legislators get their dirty hands on the Legacy funds, you can kiss it goodbye.

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