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Questions on newly ordered 193

  • Mike
    Participant
    Posts: 16
    #1983430

    Just ordered a 193 with 200 Merc, which is due Feb. I’ve got a few questions and hope the experience of you folks will help me. Thanks in advance….

    1. Carpet – my unit comes with snap in carpet. My dealer is recommending that I do not have the snaps installed in the floor as they may break off causing problems, and he says the snaps are uncomfortable on your feet when the carpet is not installed. What is your experience / recommendations.

    2. Kicker – I am not ordering it with a kicker, but will install one soon after purchase. I’m considering a tiller type, without remote controls. In my previous boat I simply locked the kicker in place, set the speed, and steered with my TM. I’m looking to do the same. I Plan to provide fuel from the spare connection on the water separator. And concerns with this idea? Any recommendations?

    3. Kicker tilt/trim – tell me about manual vs. ele. start, and power tilt-trim. Are these functions available on a tiller without remote controls. Do I need either or both? On my previous boat I had to lean over the rear transom to lift the kicker. I’ll be 64 and this concerns me. Would electric start be powered off starting battery? Ideas/ recommendations appreciated.

    4. Electronics – will be installed after delivery. I’m leaning toward Garmin. I’ve been told that shoot-thru-the-hull transducers offer advantages of marking at higher speed without problems of getting knocked around. Airmar model ??? was the unit recommended.
    Thoughts on this set up?

    5. Transducer board – should I have one installed for future purposes?

    6. Marine radio & antenna – where should these be mounted? I’m looking at 8’ antenna, or can I get away with shorter?

    7. What am I missing? This is my retirement boat and my last one. Previous boat was 18’6” Starcraft.

    I realize there’s a lot here. If you think a phone call would be better I can provide my number. Thanks to all. Mike.

    Dutchboy
    Participant
    International Falls a few miles from Rainy Lake
    Posts: 13199
    #1983437

    Congrats on the new rig. I’m sure you are excited.

    What body of water will it be used on primarily?

    snelson223
    Participant
    Austin MN
    Posts: 411
    #1983441

    I don’t have carpet or the snaps in mine and don’t plan on putting it in. I would get the 15hp pro kicker. That is fuel injection and would have electric start and tilt and trim. You would run it off of your starting battery. I’m not sure if you can get it in a tiller though. What are you going to run for garmin? Are you going to do side imaging and livescope or panoptix?
    Marine radio antenna I put in front of the windshield and only used a 4′.
    What are you going to run for trolling motor?
    Are you going to add wavepro’s or smooth moves?

    Mike
    Participant
    Posts: 16
    #1983452

    Wow. I’m impressed with the quick responses. Much thanks.

    Mostly use on Lake Erie in OH and PA. Some smaller lakes and rivers around Pittsburgh too.

    I will not be using livescope or panoptix, I just don’t see the need for my application. I had an EchoMap on my last boat and it worked very well. I tried side scan but didn’t appreciate it in Lake Erie.
    I may upgrade seats next year, not right away.
    36v Terrova with 72” shaft.
    Wash down
    Trim tabs
    Upgraded charger

    Thanks for suggestions.

    Dutchboy
    Participant
    International Falls a few miles from Rainy Lake
    Posts: 13199
    #1983456

    Since you are doing Erie I would defiantly get a kicker for peace of mind. I had a glassed in transducer on my Ranger and liked it, worked well. If you add transducers I would for sure install a transducer board, they are cheap and you don’t have to drill the hull full of holes. I have heard short antenna’s don’t work well and for Erie I think you want the 8′ model. Install it where it’s out of your way when not in use. Kicker…. your last boat, I’m loading it up. Power tilt & trim with electric start. Not much more money when weighed against what you are spending already.

    mxskeeter
    Participant
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3530
    #1983457

    You want elec/T&T on your kicker. Get the Pro-kicker it has a heavy duty mount for rough water. You can get it tiller style. It starts off your starting battery.

    I would put an 8 ft. antenna on since you fish Lake Erie.

    Buy BIG screen electronics. It makes a huge difference on Side images. You want SI on Erie to look for schools of walleyes off to the side.

    I would leave the snaps out of the floor. I have a 2012 Skeeter and have never had the carpet in the boat since day 1.
    Most guys I know only put the carpet in when fishing in ice/snow conditions because it is less slippery.

    BTW make sure to post pics of the boat when you get it rigged and ready for the water.
    I’ll probably drool all over my phone.

    Mike
    Participant
    Posts: 16
    #1983495

    Thanks again folks. This information is extremely valuable to me as I appreciate the experience you all bring to the discussion.

    gimruis
    Participant
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 7979
    #1983517

    I would not do the snap in carpet either. Either go with carpet or the polymer-vinyl non-skid material. And I had to chose between marine carpet and the hard surface, I would take the hard surface now every time. Carpet stains, it wears out, and it sucks to clean.

    Hot Runr Guy
    Participant
    West Chicago, IL
    Posts: 1920
    #1983518

    Mike,
    Congrats on the new boat. My guess is, you didn’t actually have a “kicker” before, you had a 9.9 outboard that you were using as a kicker, not one designed for the job.

    Look around at small outboards designed as a kicker, they have tilt & trim, much larger/stronger mounting brackets, electric start, bigger and higher-thrust props. Are they pricier, sure.

    Compare these to what you have now. https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/engines/outboard/fourstroke/prokicker-99-15/

    HRG

    grizzly
    Participant
    nebraska
    Posts: 721
    #1983529

    I ordered the aqua traction flooring in mine

    Matt Moen
    Participant
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 3620
    #1983598

    If you are going to have non-fisherman in the boat you need carpet or something similar. Bare floor get’s hot on bare feet. Standing all day on a hard surface sucks too. I take mine out about half the time but it’s nice to have.

    I’ve never heard of the snaps getting in the way….mine don’t.

    Deuces
    Participant
    Posts: 3695
    #1983608

    you are going to have non-fisherman in the boat you need carpet or something similar. Bare floor get’s hot on bare feet.

    Great point

    You’d think they’d make a product that makes those snaps less offensive when carpet is out. Flush snaps covers, felt, IDK just seems like a simple fix for having carpet and vinyl versatility

    Musky Ed
    Participant
    Posts: 467
    #1983642

    I’ll keep my comments to the carpet snaps, and vhf. I would go with your dealers advice, and not have snaps installed. I troll alot, salmon and walleye, and have taken the carpet out of my last two boats the day I bought them, and yes, the snaps are horrible. I have removed most of mine, and will remove the rest this winter. As to what antenna, 8′ for sure, but make sure you get a quick detach mount and antenna. Do not put a standard antenna and mount on. I troll on lake Michigan alot, and keep my antenna in my rod box when not in use. Wife made a sock for it to protect it, and only takes seconds to put on when going out trolling. Inset my vhf radio right in my dash, very nice that way. Shakespeare 8′ quick detach antenna and mount, about $175 on internet. For a picture of the vhf mounted in dash, go to skeeter postings, and look up my 2200 almost done with rigging, I think there was some there.

    gimruis
    Participant
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 7979
    #1983643

    Bare floor get’s hot on bare feet.

    Maybe this depends on the color? I have gray on mine and its never hot, even in the sun for hours. I could see how a darker color might absorb heat and could get warm in the sun though.

    Mike
    Participant
    Posts: 16
    #1983664

    I can’t express my appreciation for these discussions. You have addresses issues I wouldn’t have considered in my wildest dreams. Your comments will surly result in a better, more satisfying boat for my future. Thanks.

    Dean Marshall
    Participant
    Chippewa Falls WI /Ramsey MN
    Posts: 5822
    #1983969

    FYI your dealer can request a snap carpet delete credit. Very few if any Warrior of our Warrior customers use the carpet. It can be added after the fact should you have a change of heart.

    The tiller kicker option is still popular and less money than the remote option. All of them will have trim & tilt if ordered as a true kicker motor.

    One item you might add that I didnt see you mention is trim tabs. They are in valuable for load leveling and those extra big water days . Enjoy yoour new boat !

    Waxy
    Participant
    Calgary, AB
    Posts: 270
    #1984003

    Just ordered a 193 with 200 Merc, which is due Feb. I’ve got a few questions and hope the experience of you folks will help me. Thanks in advance….

    1. Carpet – my unit comes with snap in carpet. My dealer is recommending that I do not have the snaps installed in the floor as they may break off causing problems, and he says the snaps are uncomfortable on your feet when the carpet is not installed. What is your experience / recommendations.

    2. Kicker – I am not ordering it with a kicker, but will install one soon after purchase. I’m considering a tiller type, without remote controls. In my previous boat I simply locked the kicker in place, set the speed, and steered with my TM. I’m looking to do the same. I Plan to provide fuel from the spare connection on the water separator. And concerns with this idea? Any recommendations?

    3. Kicker tilt/trim – tell me about manual vs. ele. start, and power tilt-trim. Are these functions available on a tiller without remote controls. Do I need either or both? On my previous boat I had to lean over the rear transom to lift the kicker. I’ll be 64 and this concerns me. Would electric start be powered off starting battery? Ideas/ recommendations appreciated.

    4. Electronics – will be installed after delivery. I’m leaning toward Garmin. I’ve been told that shoot-thru-the-hull transducers offer advantages of marking at higher speed without problems of getting knocked around. Airmar model ??? was the unit recommended.
    Thoughts on this set up?

    5. Transducer board – should I have one installed for future purposes?

    6. Marine radio & antenna – where should these be mounted? I’m looking at 8’ antenna, or can I get away with shorter?

    7. What am I missing? This is my retirement boat and my last one. Previous boat was 18’6” Starcraft.

    I realize there’s a lot here. If you think a phone call would be better I can provide my number. Thanks to all. Mike.

    First, congrats on the boat, you will LOVE it.

    1. I agree with your dealer. I think I’ve used my carpet maybe twice, and for the amount of time it’s in there, it’ll stay in place and do it’s job just fine without the snaps. I would opt to delete the carpet like Dean mentioned on my next one. I’m torn on the aqua traction, it’s nice, but in my opinion at least, the jury is out on long term durability, and it’s not cheap. I’ve got the desert sand interior, and yeah, all interiors get hot when it’s 90F out, but it’s not that bad. I’m not a barefoot in the boat guy though.

    2/3. As others have said, get a Pro Kicker with power trim and tilt. The power trim and tilt are critical, it just makes using the kicker SO much more enjoyable and it means you’re far more likely to use it. Same with the EFI, effortless starting and idling is a real pleasure. I’ve had a tiller style mounted on my last two boats and wouldn’t go any other way. Add a iTroll unit for speed control and you’re set. If you want to get real high tech, add a PowrTran Python remote steering system for the absolute best and easiest in boat control.

    4. A glassed in transducer is definitely nice to have and the factory does a great job. You’ll always have a reliable source for depth, and they’re far less finicky when trying to maintain a bottom reading at high speed. That said, a properly setup transom mount will hold bottom at full speed no problem, and their are better quality options available, ie Airmar.

    5. YES. Get two of them, one on each side.

    6. I know nothing about marine radio lol.

    7. – Rod holders. You might want to think about having rails or tracks installed, or possibly a Slider Trax system from extrememax.com for rod holders, tool holders, cup holders, etc… I don’t troll the great lakes, so I went with rails and the Slider Trax. I’m very happy with my setup, but I’d probably go with tracks if I was a hardcore troller, especially on the great lakes.
    – Ski pole. Even if you don’t think you’ll use it much, it can’t be installed after the fact, so I would advise having it installed as part of the build. You will easily make your money back on resale, and you can take the kids or grandkids for a ride on the tube when the fishing is slow.
    – I’ve got the Fishini bimini top from Dowco, and it’s a really nice option to have on those hot summer days.
    – Give some thought to upgrading to a Captain’s chair for the driver, they are so much more comfortable and secure, they’re worth every penny in my opinion. – Rear deck seat base is a must have for me.
    – Splash guards/wave wackers. They’re another must have for me, but that depends on your fishing style.
    – The new upgraded Warrior (Dowco) travel cover is the best cover I’ve ever used. SUPER easy and fast to put on/take off, excellent fit, and it’s very durable.
    – I don’t have them, but you might want to think about trailer steps. They do make it far easier to get in and out of the boat.
    – A rock/gravel guard if you do a fair bit of towing. I swear by the Trailer Tux, it’s the best option available in my opinion

    That’s all I can think of off the top of my head, but I just spent a lot of your money with that list LOL.

    Waxy

    Joe Scegura
    Participant
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2726
    #1984047

    And I had to chose between marine carpet and the hard surface, I would take the hard surface now every time. Carpet stains, it wears out, and it sucks to clean.

    And also easily replaceable…

    My 2 cents, when it comes time to sell the boat you can buy a new snap in carpet and make the boat look like new.

    Mike
    Participant
    Posts: 16
    #1984582

    Thanks to everyone for taking the time to provide your thoughts. Your time is important and the info your provided is greatly appreciated.

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