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  • targaman
    Inactive
    Wilton, WI
    Posts: 2759
    #1685732

    I started the thread so I’ll close it.

    Thanks for the response James.

    All hail the great Dutchy! devil

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Participant
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1685736

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>riverruns wrote:</div>
    like this format

    Fantastic. Rest assured this site will be maintained for your enjoyment, and the enjoyment of others, for a long, long time.

    I would just add that I was not overly concerned about this site. For the most part it is one of, if not the best Outdoor Forum and I truly enjoy it.
    Regarding some of my previous comments or concerns was that another forum that at one time was doing fairly well and held a fair amount of popularity, quickly imploded and now is not much more than “skeletal remains”. Was kind of sad to see that happen. Alot of the reason for its demise was for the most part an “absentee owner” who just let it fall apart and gave no direction or support to the moderators and other’s that were trying to maintain the site. They in turn gave up and left, contributing further to the sites deterioration.
    James, completely understand your priorities in producing the shows and that IDO is a media platform and not just a “forum”. You do have capable moderators in place here and especially BK!
    Thanks to all of you for keeping this such an enjoyable outdoors production and social forum. waytogo

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 58765
    #1685777

    Thanks for the hug Andy! I needed it.

    waytogo

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1685800

    This is an informative read on why photos that appear as you expect on your phone or digital camera will sometimes appear rotated or upside down after uploading. I have a feeling there is absolutely nothing “wrong” with the forum to be honest.

    Why Your Photos Don’t Always Appear Correctly Rotated

    In short: if you take a photo in portrait mode, or in landscape but with the camera/phone inadvertently flipped 180 degrees, your device has an internal sensor that corrects for this and knows how to display the photo correctly. Forums don’t have that, hence they appear exactly as you took them. With so many people taking photos using a touch screen they don’t always pay attention to where the physical “buttons” are — especially when trying to photograph that personal best walleye quickly and get the fish back in the water. That’s my 2 cents

    Steve Hix
    Participant
    Dysart, Iowa
    Posts: 1091
    #1685855

    Test Looks good!!!

    Attachments:
    1. index.jpg

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1685865

    Testing my theory using an iPhone. Photo 3429 was taken in landscape with the home button on the right; photo 3430 taken in portrait mode with home button on bottom; photo 3431 was taken in landscape with button on left; photo 3432 taken in portrait with button top. All look “correct” when viewing on my phone and when after importing to a Mac, but the forum software doesn’t have the same sensor built in.

    The only odd thing I see is that the square shaped thumbnail previews do get flipped at times, but when you click the thumbnail to view the full size it seems to be right on.

    Also: yes, my dog is missing an eye.

    Attachments:
    1. IMG_3432.jpg

    2. IMG_3431.jpg

    3. IMG_3430.jpg

    4. IMG_3429.jpg

    eyeguy507
    Participant
    SE MN
    Posts: 3224
    #1685870

    I’m no computer nerd but wouldn’t a “rotate pic” button solve all these problems? Not sure how easy or how difficult this is to do….jus sayin

    Denny O
    Participant
    Central IOWA
    Posts: 5366
    #1685878

    This is an informative read on why photos that appear as you expect on your phone or digital camera will sometimes appear rotated or upside down after uploading. I have a feeling there is absolutely nothing “wrong” with the forum to be honest.

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    Why Your Photos Don’t Always Appear Correctly Rotated

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    In short: if you take a photo in portrait mode, or in landscape but with the camera/phone inadvertently flipped 180 degrees, your device has an internal sensor that corrects for this and knows how to display the photo correctly. Forums don’t have that, hence they appear exactly as you took them. With so many people taking photos using a touch screen they don’t always pay attention to where the physical “buttons” are — especially when trying to photograph that personal best walleye quickly and get the fish back in the water. That’s my 2 cents

    That was a great and gave a lot of insight into the issue for me! I have never had an issue as I upload pics from my desktop.

    mplspug
    Participant
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1686069

    I think the issue may be 2 fold. I have only had an issue when posting a picture in portrait format, in other words, it’s taller than wide. In that case on the site it’s flipped on its side in landscape format.

    Phones, camera’s and websites have no idea how to orient your photos, unless metadata is saved to it or it or the file is saved in the correct orientation. When the picture is taken, phones and cameras can add meta information about the orientation (rotation) from a sensor, so that when viewed on your phone, PC or website, the photo is rotated (not the actual file) so it is oriented the same way as you took it.

    I always just assumed that the reason photos I uploaded that were taken in portrait mode, were just being read straight and ignoring the rotation metadata so they ended up looking like they were on their side.

    It is possible that for those uploading and not having issues that instead of saving the orientation metadata it is actually saving the file out in the correct orientation.

    Hmm, maybe that is a one fold issue?

    guthook1
    Participant
    Lake Nebagamon Wisconsin
    Posts: 379
    #1686081

    Try holding your phone upside down when you hit the send button.

    ll

    1) What are we doing wrong when the photos won’t load correctly. Many seem sideways, upside down.

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