Which Knot for Connecting Mono to Leadcore?

  • LimpFish
    Participant
    Lino Lakes, Minnesota
    Posts: 232
    #1256284

    Any recommendations? I’ve heard about the Willis knot, but cannot find any illustrations?

    Thanks,

    Jim

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    Ben Garver
    Participant
    Hickman, Nebraska
    Posts: 3149
    #613502

    I use a size 18 barrel swivel with great results.

    Brian Robinson
    Participant
    central Neb
    Posts: 3914
    #613510

    Pro Jason Tomich showed me a method that really works well. I’ll see if I can explain it:

    First, pull back the sheath on the leadcore, and take out about 6″ of lead. Straighten the sheath back out.

    Then, in the part with no lead, tie a square knot up around the area where the lead starts again.

    Cut your mono with clippers so there’s no sharp edge on the end of the mono. The reason for this is so it’ll thread up INTO the sheath easier. You thread the mono into the sheath, up until it hits the knot, which is near where the lead starts.

    Now the tricky part: Keep the mono where it is, and move the knot down near the end of the sheath. The end result will be one tiny knot, and you’ll have 4-5″ of mono up into the sheath. Doesn’t look like it’ll hold, but man, it works great! I am currently using 18# leadcore, so that dictates that I use something like 10# or 12# mono. It still takes quite a bit to break your line off. I know this ’cause I’ve been losing some cranks lately!

    Send me an email if you have any questions. I’ve been using it since the last part of August when Tomich showed me, and it works.

    bret_clark
    Participant
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #613511

    This is the best I can find for the Willis knot –

    Willis Knot

    I do not use lead core but for line to line I like the Albright. This is a cool site for knots.

    Fishing Knots

    Hope this helps some.

    Bret

    t-ellis
    Participant
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Posts: 1316
    #613551

    Uniknot or Blood works very well and are easy to tye. Check out the Uniknot its different variations and strength makes it one of the most versatile best all around knots in the industry.

    MFO
    Participant
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts: 1451
    #613578

    Brian spelled it out perfect. I do the same on 20lb+ salmon and have never had a breakage (knock on wood).

    jbob
    Participant
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 725
    #613655

    I also agree with Brian. I have been using this knot for years with out a break off. It works like the old Chinese finger trap works.

    Jami Ritter
    Participant
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 3065
    #613661

    Yup, thats what I use, if I can’t get that knot to go, a blood knot is #2.

    Jami

    LimpFish
    Participant
    Lino Lakes, Minnesota
    Posts: 232
    #613730

    Thanks for all the replies guys…I really appreciate it!

    One question regarding the method Brian described. How does the knot in the sheath slip over the mono without pushing it out?

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    suzuki
    Participant
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18025
    #613764

    I use a barrell swivel.

    Jami Ritter
    Participant
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 3065
    #613825

    once you have the mono in the sheath, you slowly work/walk that knot down the sheath line while keeping pressure on the mono to keep it in the sheath.

    While you are working the knot down the sheath, you are incorporating the mono in the sheath.. When you’ve worked the knot to the end of the core sheath, tighten the knot.

    Make any sense?

    Jami

    scottsteil
    Participant
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #613842

    I use a swivel also. I believe they are much more reliable.

    Brian Robinson
    Participant
    central Neb
    Posts: 3914
    #613872

    Quote:


    I use a swivel also. I believe they are much more reliable.


    That’s what I thought too, when I saw it. I told Jason, man, no way that’s holding. But the more I’ve used it, and when I’ve caught trees and snags, that knot does NOT let anything come loose. I’ve lost a few cranks, and the mono is still stuck in the sheath.

    jon_jordan
    Participant
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #613876

    I use a barrel swivel for a short leader. I use this “Parsons & Kavajecz” knot for segmenting or long leaders like 50 footers. Have also heard it called a nail knot. This pic is off thenextbite.com. No other way to describe it. Works wonderfully and is easy to tie. They have a 3 part article on LC trolling that is a must read IMO.

    By the way, that knot where you try to insert the mono into the leadcore sheath is impossible to tie in the boat! At least it is for me.

    -J.

    LimpFish
    Participant
    Lino Lakes, Minnesota
    Posts: 232
    #614483

    Thanks for the replies guys. Heading over to Milwaukee to chase salmonoids later this week and will play around with some of the options described above.

    By the way, the first knot that Brian described appears to be the Willis knot. The only difference being that he uses a square knot verses and overhand knot.

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