BOYCOTT Casino’s and Business Partner’s

  • carroll58
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    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1357478

    Would/will you participate in a Boycott of the Tribal Cansino’s and their business partners such as Cabela’s (Spring Sportsman’s show) until the End of Netting and Spearing or other taking of Walleye’s during the Spawning time each Spring?

    Until we put Financial pressure upon the Tribal Communities, we will never see an end to the Unequal Rights and death of Lakes such as Mille Lacs Lake Walleye’s. We need to STOP the massive Killing/taking of Spawning Walleye’s.

    This is meant to drawn attention to this matter and bring the parties to the table to end this practice and bring peace and equal rights for all.

    carroll58
    Participant
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1399154

    Ok, seeing a few people won’t boycott the Casino’s,
    Please explain Why NOT?

    BBKK
    Participant
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1399041

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    and their business partners such as Cabela’s


    Likely the reason why.

    fish_any_time
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    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 2097
    #1399159

    Quote:


    Quote:


    and their business partners such as Cabela’s


    Likely the reason why.


    X2

    bzzsaw
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    Hudson, Wi
    Posts: 3418
    #1399163

    I don’t go to the casinos very often anymore. Your poll question includes their business partners. I have no idea who all their business partners are. You list Cabelas. I know there are several others. I don’t go to Cabelas very often, but I would bet most of the people claiming they would boycott them probably spend more money there than I do. How do you keep track of all the entertainers that perform at the casinos (Larry the Cable Guy, Cheech and Chong, etc.)? I just don’t think there is a snow balls chance it will work… but I wish you luck.

    mplspug
    Participant
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25025
    #1399167

    I’ve been boycotting for years. Where’s my Chalupa!

    fish_any_time
    Participant
    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 2097
    #1399168

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    I don’t go to the casinos very often anymore. Your poll question includes their business partners. I have no idea who all their business partners are. You list Cabelas. I know there are several others. I don’t go to Cabelas very often, but I would bet most of the people claiming they would boycott them probably spend more money there than I do. How do you keep track of all the entertainers that perform at the casinos (Larry the Cable Guy, Cheech and Chong, etc.)? I just don’t think there is a snow balls chance it will work… but I wish you luck.


    And the reality is that the majority of our MN residents do not have an understanding of the 1837 treaty and how it is affecting the economy and fish populations.

    TheFamousGrouse
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    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 10952
    #1399170

    I would add that I’m not sure how you’re defining “business partner”. Is Cabela’s really a business partner or are they just renting space for the expo? Big difference in my mind.

    So when you lump the two of them together, it makes me wonder who all you consider to be “partners” of the tribes and casinos. I have a friend who runs an ad agency that did casino ads. Is he a business partner?

    Grouse

    roosterrouster
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    The "IGH"...
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    #1399176

    Take a deep breath my friend…Do you support the Twins? Huge sponsor of the Grand Casino’s. I don’t support the casino’s in our fine state but ya, I’ll still do my shopping at Cabela’s…Relax…

    Brian Hoffies
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    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1399177

    I voted yes, I haven’t been there for years. They also own Eddies, The Marathon station on HWY 169, Subway on 169, The Bank in Onamia, the printers in Onamia, The hotel in St. Paul and many more places.

    Will a boycott make a difference?? Not a bit. There is a better chance I could find flight 370 then a couple of fisherman can influence anybody connected with the Casino. As you can see people talk out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to Mille Lacs. They protest and complain about whats happening to the lake, but they are right there with their nickel’s to gamble and eat at the Buffet.

    My opinion only.

    carroll58
    Participant
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1399179

    Quote:


    I would add that I’m not sure how you’re defining “business partner”. Is Cabela’s really a business partner or are they just renting space for the expo? Big difference in my mind.

    So when you lump the two of them together, it makes me wonder who all you consider to be “partners” of the tribes and casinos. I have a friend who runs an ad agency that did casino ads. Is he a business partner?

    Grouse



    I list Cabela’s as they should know their clients and the Political Climate of this Organization (Mille Lacs Band/Tribe).

    Holding a Sportsman’s show at a site where there is such controversy with their customer base, says we don’t care about you, were only here for your money.

    Thus, I will withhold any of my money from them and spend it at the small private sporting goods shops and I’ll urge all my friends to do the same.

    No, I don’t attend any events held at or on Tribal Lands.
    Simply put, as “Sovereign Nation’s” anyone gets hurt or anything gets damaged, you have to go through the Tribal Court’s. Have yet to hear anyone winning a case there.

    The Tribes have the power to end the Raping of Mille Lacs and all other Lakes. Until they end this, I will continue urging all my friends to boycott their businesses.

    As for Entertainer’s, I rarely go to any show’s and I’ll pick those that do not do shows at these Casino’s.

    Mainly it all comes down to where I spend my money.

    Brian Hoffies
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    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1399183

    Couple of things to keep in mind. The vast majority of the Mille Lacs band reside in Mpls. Very few actually live on the reservation. Secondly, very few Mille Lacs band members net Mille Lacs. It’s the Wisconsin band coming over and placing the nets.

    Can the Mille Lacs band influence what happens on the lake? I’m sure they can, but why would they?

    jerry b
    Participant
    western WI
    Posts: 1506
    #1399184

    Does that include not watching Minnesota Bound, too? I see Ron has accepted sponsorship from the tribesjerr

    Brian Hoffies
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    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
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    #1399185

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    Does that include not watching Minnesota Bound, too? I see Ron has accepted sponsorship from the tribesjerr


    7 Clans I think. I was very surprised by that. I wonder how much control if any Ron has over who advertises on the show. Maybe James can chime in on the subject.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1399193

    Quote:


    Holding a Sportsman’s show at a site where there is such controversy with their customer base, says we don’t care about you, were only here for your money.

    Thus, I will withhold any of my money from them and spend it at the small private sporting goods shops and I’ll urge all my friends to do the same.


    I’m with ya brother, there are principles involved here. Just really sucks BC they have such good deals and I enjoy there store. But cmon, really, Grand Casino, F that.

    matt
    Participant
    Posts: 659
    #1399198

    Gonna make a Cabelas run in a bit for some jigs/plastics.

    fishdale
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    Posts: 406
    #1399202

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    Ok, seeing a few people won’t boycott the Casino’s,

    Please explain Why NOT?


    Ok since you asked

    I guess I see it as something for the MN legislators to fix.

    If the impact is what you say it is then the number one priority for your legislator should be to get some sort of $ buyout of the treaty rights. If they can not get results then vote them out.

    If I sign a contract with someone I will honor it, I would expect my country to do the same.

    I am sure there are a lot of treaties in the past 200 years that one of the sides would like to redo.

    PS – I don’t go to the casinos but I like Cabelas and will continue to shop ther.

    flatfish
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    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #1399203

    I have no problem NOT giving business to any casinos’. Haven’t since the bull$hit when they allowed the 1867 treaty. My honest opinion is this was ‘way’ over stepping 20 & 21st century reasoning. These lakes are not big enough to support commercial fishing, and netting is commercial fishing. (dammit, there goes my blood pressure again)

    jeff_huberty
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    Posts: 4941
    #1399205

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    I voted yes, I haven’t been there for years. They also own Eddies, The Marathon station on HWY 169, Subway on 169, The Bank in Onamia, the printers in Onamia, The hotel in St. Paul and many more places.

    Will a boycott make a difference?? Not a bit. There is a better chance I could find flight 370 then a couple of fisherman can influence anybody connected with the Casino. As you can see people talk out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to Mille Lacs. They protest and complain about whats happening to the lake, but they are right there with their nickel’s to gamble and eat at the Buffet.

    My opinion only.


    Effect the casino? not a bit; now on the other hand I do not think this is the kind of light Cabelas wants shined on them.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1399206

    Could this be a gift horse that will bring widespread attention to the Mille lacs dilemma?

    Outdoorsmen boycotting Cabelas…might be the Vehicle.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1399207

    Quote:


    Effect the casino? not a bit; now on the other hand I do not think this is the kind of light Cabelas wants shined on them.



    “Sunlight is the best disinfectant.”
    If this is where the higher ups in the company feel is the right location for their shows, hope everybody is welcome to the thought of Cabelas looking like GM in 5 years.

    Paulski
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    “Ever Wonder Why There Are No Democrats On Mount Rushmore ? "
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    #1399208

    Quote:


    I guess I see it as something for the MN legislators to fix.

    If the impact is what you say it is then the number one priority for your legislator should be to get some sort of $ buyout of the treaty rights. If they can not get results then vote them out.


    Sorry to have to say it, but aren’t these the same legislators who get money from the tribes to get re-elected ?

    Follow the money as Jesse used to say ….

    flatfish
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    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #1399211

    I just fired off an email to Cabelas. We’ll see if they reply, and what they have to say.

    Mike Stephens
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    WI.
    Posts: 1722
    #1399214

    They’ll probably say to attack the Federal gov’t treaty instead of us.

    Mocha
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    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1399216

    I realize this is mainly a Twin Cities web site but the issue is not just Mille Lacs issue.

    Its obviously a personal choice where you want to spend your money. I will not spend one single penny, knowingly, that goes to any tribe anywhere period. Until they want to assimilate into the general population of the USA and not take un-earned federal and state tax dollars they will never see any of my hard earned American dollars. Until then, the more businesses I find out about that are partners with the tribes the bigger my boycott.

    I have already said Good by to Cabelas, Minnesota Bound (Ron) any and all business that are owned by the tribes in the Mille Lacs lake, Walker, Cass Lake, Red Lake, Thief River Falls, Duluth and Warroad areas.

    Until we all figure out that its the politicians and tribes greed for more $$$ from the Fed and State it will probably never change in my lifetime.

    mcarlsen
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    Posts: 95
    #1399224

    I buy a license like everyone else in this state but members of my family are enrolled in the grand portage tribe. They don’t go out and pound the lakes. It’s a select group of people. I also happen to be in the hospitality industry and there are plenty of non-native people working in casinos to make a living. You would be affecting their income too. That being said I don’t ever go to casinos and I think given the history of the culture preservation of resources should be a given and fish should be left to spawn undisturbed. But how many fish die because of hook morality. Start boycotting businesses that sell hooks? Maybe there is a better solution than passive aggressive guerrilla tactics? Perhaps the dnr can pull their heads out of their asses and figure out a way to honor treaties that have been in place since 1837. And in turn natives should maybe take a second and think about where their culture came from exactly. Not like it crept up on either them urine poor management and greed.

    life1978
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    Eau Claire , WI
    Posts: 2790
    #1399239

    I used to work for a casino in Mn during college and know how they work. So I have never ever set foot in the door of one to gamble or eat or any other reason other than for work the one year. Never will either.

    buck-slayer
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    Posts: 1499
    #1399259

    Why not boycott Lake Mille Lacs? As a nonresident a group of us went up there last winter I spent $350 for the weekend and caught no fish I could legally keep. Won’t come back till they straighten that out. Resort owners will be hurt but if I’m spending that kinda money there I want to bring home a meal of fish.

    garrett
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    #1399264

    You’re stirring an awfully big pot. how bout the 20+ lakes up north that are netted for eyes. If you want to start a real boycott , stop flocking to the DNR stocked lake that only 17% open to the public.

    hosejr
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    #1399278

    Will not make one bit of difference IMO.The casinos have to much coin.

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