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  • Randy Wieland
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    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 12960
    #1648420

    Well the rumors of mountain lion in my area got real at 330am. Neighbor was coming home from work and saw the cat in front of my house and called. By the time I jumped out of bed to look, it was gone. Neighbor across the field saw it at 1:30 in the afternoon staring down their dog.

    A few miles west of me, a few guys have trail cam pics of one.

    I don’t fear much. But cats are one of the limitted fewm I’m checking traps at night, predator hunting,…..and more that plays into the cats favor.

    For guys that have cats in their area with limitted habitat, what kind of range do they cover?

    404 ERROR
    Participant
    MN
    Posts: 3918
    #1648431

    It is believed Cougars in MN and WI are transient. In MN, there is no evidence of a breeding population, not sure about WI. Mountain Lions are known to travel incredibly long distances. They WILL leave you alone if you stand your ground (don’t play dead). I have hunting land that touches a fairly large regional park in MN and I have spotted one about 15 years ago in the park.

    sktrwx2200
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    Posts: 727
    #1648469

    Id be willing to bet that it will keep moving to find a better situation. Might grab a few meals on its way through.

    TheFamousGrouse
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    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 9573
    #1648476

    ME’s post basically sums it up. We’ve had 1 on a trail cam at my property and my friend who owns property a mile away has captured several, but then it’s years between pictures or sightings.

    I’ve heard that if they encounter easy meals like feral hogs or deer that are being corn-pile fed, they will stay around until the fast food runs out. I guess a grain loading terminal down by Shockopee attracted a lot of deer from the MN river bottoms and a mountain lion was caught on security cams there several times grabbing a quick snack. But the deer got wise and then no more sightings.

    Grouse

    Randy Wieland
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    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 12960
    #1648479

    This one has been around (about 10 mile x 15 mile) for almost 2 months that I am aware of. Like so many trail cam pics, you look at them and if it doesn;t have the true characteristics of a M/L, you assume bobcat – of which we don’t have many down here in southern WI. But a few of the cam pics I saw were definitive mountain lion, so I hope this one moves on soon. With the population density we have with people and pets, its not the right place to have them.

    Hunting4Walleyes
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    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #1648480

    Here’s a couples signs from out west. You can try what the first sign suggests and if all else fails you can try what he second sing suggests. jester

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    haasjj
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    Cordova, IL
    Posts: 373
    #1648490

    We’ve got one down here near Albany IL that have been seen several times over the summer. Just part of the changing in the woods and range expansion of different predators. Breeding populations is another story.

    I too am not very comfortable being No. 2 on the food chain in the woods, but carrying a side arm while bow hunting may be in the future plans for me. I just started hunting a property about 2 miles from one of the primary siting areas, so its spooky.

    Charles
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    Posts: 1380
    #1648492

    I should find the photo, we have a trail camera in Cambridge with one on it.

    stillakid2
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    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4290
    #1648615

    Do not put your heads in the sand on this issue. Many sightings are transient males looking for new territory and females but if you really do some digging, you’ll find that the ranges are indeed expanding. These cats were once like elk and roamed this country from north to south and east to west. As the range expands, the sightings are going to continue to become more and more frequent.

    As far back as 1989, the WI DNR has been aware of areas that became home to breeding pairs. In every case I’ve read, these cats too mysteriously disappeared but that only raises my suspicions. I’ve eye witnessed one myself and it’s truly unnerving.

    At the core, does it matter why they’re here or how consistent it is or isn’t? This is on the rise and I suggest preparation. “That never happens here”….. is only true until something happens. Any given day could be our last but we never know. Pack a side arm and get back to the woods. Better to be prepared and never need it than to need it and be unprepared.

    404 ERROR
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    MN
    Posts: 3918
    #1648640

    Do not put your heads in the sand on this issue.

    Considering there are just over 20 confirmed deaths by cougars in 120 years, I believe we will all be okay if we start encountering more, like you say. There has been more deaths by Black bears in the last 20 years than that… Yes, they have a higher attack record on humans than wolves, but neither are strikingly high. So many individuals act like we need to be at the top of the food chain (I’m not saying stillakid believes that). Newsflash, we aren’t.

    Cougars aren’t the people killing, death machines they’re painted to be by so many…Maybe we all need to listen to what Trump said and grab them by the P…wait, inappropriate. End of rant, bring on the flames.

    Willy D
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    Nipawin, SK
    Posts: 209
    #1648670

    Growing up in the Cypress Hills area in the SW corner of Saskatchewan I can remember there being sightings as far back as the early 70s. Sightings started to increase in the latter 90s. Sightings really started to increase in the early 2000s so they started a study. Now we have the highest or one of the highest cougar density in North America at 6 – 8.25 cougars per 100 sq km( 38 sq miles for you folk down there lol ). Our deer and elk herds have taken a pretty good hit and our #s are way down. They say a full grown cat will consume on average of 43 deer per year. It wasn’t till this year that they finally admitted(Sask Environment) there was an established breeding population. I think from 2004 to 2010 there were 12 cougars that were caught in snares or shot by landowners, from 2011 to present I will guarantee there has been over 50. This spring there was a lot of new born calves that were confirmed cougars kills, dogs and cats on farms and ranches have been taken literally on the front door step, as well in my hometown of Maple Creek. I do believe that they are an incredible animal and do not want to see them go away from my area but they do need to be managed and population kept in check or there is going to be something tragic happen and it is only a matter of time.
    Here is the link to study when it first started, and remember when reading this was done by a university student doing her doctorate and I think we should all just get along and there is no problem. She had a meeting with local ranchers on both sides of the border. She stated that there was around 25 cougars in the area and they told her that her #s were wrong cause they had shot or snared 30+ lol . Anyways sorry for the long rant if you want more info google cypress hills cougars, lots of reads

    http://sci-northern.ab.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/CougarsCreateALandscapeOfFearInTheCypressHills_May2010.pdf

    riverruns
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    Posts: 2218
    #1648675

    Blaa Blaa Blaa. And you guys don’t like what wolves do.

    These cougars will fall on the backs of the wolves, and see how the tree huggers support these, once the DNR confirms they are here.

    Now we will need to have a breeding population just like the wolves. They will be protected. Look to California and the other states out west. Scary stuff happening out west and you don’t need to go that far to see it.
    Shawn

    Buffalo Fishhead
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    Posts: 230
    #1648683

    Look to California and the other states out west. Scary stuff happening out west and you don’t need to go that far to see it.
    Shawn

    What “scary stuff” are you referring to?

    ClearCreek

    roosterrouster
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    The "IGH"...
    Posts: 2092
    #1648690

    Don’t go outside if there is thunder mear by because you have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being attacked by a cougar. Enjoy the fact that a really cool animal VISITS Minny/Wisky. I really don’t think we have much to be alarmed about…RR

    Randy Wieland
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    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 12960
    #1648706

    It’s not over reacting or excessive paranoia daughter’s friend had a horse killed a few years ago during the last “sighting” and 2 neighbors now have dogs missing.

    We have a low deer population here locally, as well as rabbits and other food sources. So a hungry cat is likely to be opportunistic before moving on. Different regions have substantial different habitats. Locally, we don’t have the environment to support cats without frequent interference of humans, pets , and livestock.

    stillakid2
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    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4290
    #1649106

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stillakid2 wrote:</div>
    Do not put your heads in the sand on this issue.

    Considering there are just over 20 confirmed deaths by cougars in 120 years, I believe we will all be okay if we start encountering more, like you say. There has been more deaths by Black bears in the last 20 years than that… Yes, they have a higher attack record on humans than wolves, but neither are strikingly high. So many individuals act like we need to be at the top of the food chain (I’m not saying stillakid believes that). Newsflash, we aren’t.

    Cougars aren’t the people killing, death machines they’re painted to be by so many…Maybe we all need to listen to what Trump said and grab them by the P…wait, inappropriate. End of rant, bring on the flames.

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stillakid2 wrote:</div>
    Do not put your heads in the sand on this issue.

    Considering there are just over 20 confirmed deaths by cougars in 120 years, I believe we will all be okay if we start encountering more, like you say. There has been more deaths by Black bears in the last 20 years than that… Yes, they have a higher attack record on humans than wolves, but neither are strikingly high. So many individuals act like we need to be at the top of the food chain (I’m not saying stillakid believes that). Newsflash, we aren’t.

    Cougars aren’t the people killing, death machines they’re painted to be by so many…Maybe we all need to listen to what Trump said and grab them by the P…wait, inappropriate. End of rant, bring on the flames.

    You can poke at me if you like. Spit wads to a battleship my friend! Stats mean nothing until they’re equalized and truly made apples to apples. I’ve had my personal encounter with a wolf, momma black bear and her cubs, and a cougar. I’ve shot at none of them. I didn’t run. I didn’t panic. BUT…. I was ready just in case…. and that’s all I’m saying. I don’t hide. I still walk in the dark through the wilds of the north and if I go down, I go down. However, if I have a chance to survive, I’m choosing to survive. All I’m saying is that they’re all unpredictable and there’s no excuse for not paying attention. We all make our choices based on whatever criteria we’re inclined to embrace and mine is to be prepared as much as possible for the things I put myself in a position to encounter. Rattlesnakes aren’t people killing, death machines either but when in the areas of, we should pay attention, don’t you think? Think of it this way….. at the very least, this is a new reason to tell little woman you need another tool for the collection! ;-)

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