quota reached

  • puddlepounder
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    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
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    #1535436

    The word I got is the natives quota has been reached for 2015

    deertracker
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    #1535446

    When they are full of eggs the weight adds up quick……
    DT

    BigWerm
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    SW Metro
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    #1535523

    That didn’t seem to take long, when did they start?

    puddlepounder
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    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1535535

    When the ice started to go out about three weeks ago

    Bob Carlson
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    Mille Lacs Lake (eastside), Mn.
    Posts: 2936
    #1535694

    The word I got is the natives quota has been reached for 2015

    Really…Thanks for the info Tom!

    Guess we will watch and see if they are “all” done……because once they reach the walleye quota all other species are done also

    big_g
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    Isle, MN
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    #1535697

    thank god, now they won’t starve to death.

    steve-fellegy
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    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1538105

    The word I got is the natives quota has been reached for 2015

    Fair amount of “subsistence” fishing going on around Myr Mar/north Garrison access last night/this morning. Numerous tubs of fish….quota ten days ago/last week? lol

    They do or say that every year. And then they keep netting for days and even weeks. But who’s counting?

    puddlepounder
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    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1538260

    There hasn’t been activity that I have seen down here on the south end. Its the trouble makers on the north end that are causing all the trouble

    steve-fellegy
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    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1538289

    There hasn’t been activity that I have seen down here on the south end. Its the trouble makers on the north end that are causing all the trouble

    More nets in again last night over here.

    sktrwx2200
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    #1538340

    Now they are just going after the ones to dump in the woods. flame

    Bob Carlson
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    Mille Lacs Lake (eastside), Mn.
    Posts: 2936
    #1538614

    A number of vehcles at the Wealthwood Public access today! Small tent setup and nets and bins setting all over.

    Must be netting perch?

    denis wegner
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    #1538633

    why would they net perch? when they can net walleyes and nobody is watching them

    Bob Carlson
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    Mille Lacs Lake (eastside), Mn.
    Posts: 2936
    #1538639

    why would they net perch? when they can net walleyes and nobody is watching them

    I was kidding with the statement! walleyes in all the bins

    mark-bruzek
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    Two Harbors, MN
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    #1538641

    I do not know the source but I was shown a pic of gut piles today dumped on the side of the road again at an intersection. Supposedly taken recently.
    Recent or not it is a disgrace and at move to throw it in our face.

    Justin Laack
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    Austin,mn
    Posts: 464
    #1538643

    Has there been any hard facts that they reached the quota the other week?? Hard to believe they would still be there if truly in fact they had reached it.. I would think the (Do Nothing Right) would be all over that one if they have reached it and are still netting.. Just would like some true facts

    puddlepounder
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    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
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    #1538718

    The hard fact is I work with a mille lacs band member. His son went up on Friday April 17, he called and said that they couldn’t get the permit for spearing that night because the quota was filled. I have been on vacation lately and haven’t talked to my coworker, when I do, I will post a response. A guess would be that they are Wisconsin bands and they have there own quota……..and that quota is, fill the nets until the day before white mans opener

    Bob Carlson
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    Mille Lacs Lake (eastside), Mn.
    Posts: 2936
    #1538729

    You are soooooooo correct!!!

    Had there been a MN DNR official present yesterday, I would have spent more time and possible pictures would have been taken. As it was…I was out numbered

    BigWerm
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    SW Metro
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    #1538772

    What does the DNR say when you guys call them to report this?

    Justin Laack
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    Austin,mn
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    #1538807

    Thanks Tom, thats hard facts, sorry just didn’t know if it was a heard from so in so who heard it from this guy who heard it from somebody type deal. I’ve always said the Mille lacs band are decent they actually use the fish and give to elders, its the Wisconsin bands that rape the resources.

    Joe
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    #1538887

    BigWerm- this is what the DNR says when you ask them…. I e-mailed them yesterday questioning if the quota had been reached but yet eye witnesses are seeing tubs of walleyes and nets in the water still.

    The response I received yesterday:

    “That is a good question because the quota that the bands use to harvest walleye doesn’t include all the walleye they can harvest. What happens is that the bands take their allocation and divide it into two pieces. The biggest piece is what they use to limit their walleye catch during walleye spawning. But they set aside a small portion (1,000 lb this year) that can be used for walleye that are accidentally caught while netting perch. The perch fishing general occurs about two weeks after walleye fishing, and that is what is going on now.

    We do not regulate any of the band’s fishing activities, but we do monitor portions of it.”

    BigWerm
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    SW Metro
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    #1538905

    flame I wish I didn’t even ask… flame

    Sartell Eye Guy
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    Sartell, MN
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    #1539107

    The Fox watching the hen house….and no one paying attention to the Fox. Despicable response by the DNR. Absolutely asinine.

    Take the time to read the MNDNR “mission statement” and see how many areas they have FAILED. How anyone keeps their jobs is beyond me. We all “spend” WAY too much in state tax for funding these idiots to sit idly by and accept their bullish!t.

    Joe, please post the email address of the person who responded to you so we can ALL ask which “portions” of indian harvest are “monitored”.

    Tom Sawvell
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    #1539112

    Joe, please post the email address of the person who responded to you so we can ALL ask which “portions” of indian harvest are “monitored”.

    And then send the dnr reply you get to your local representative and ask them why these people still have state jobs.

    Bob Carlson
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    Mille Lacs Lake (eastside), Mn.
    Posts: 2936
    #1539113

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Sartell Eye Guy wrote:</div>
    Joe, please post the email address of the person who responded to you so we can ALL ask which “portions” of indian harvest are “monitored”.

    And then send the dnr reply you get to your local representative and ask them why these people still have state jobs.

    This is great..Thanks

    Will Roseberg
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    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 2121
    #1539169

    BigWerm- this is what the DNR says when you ask them…. I e-mailed them yesterday questioning if the quota had been reached but yet eye witnesses are seeing tubs of walleyes and nets in the water still.

    The response I received yesterday:

    “That is a good question because the quota that the bands use to harvest walleye doesn’t include all the walleye they can harvest. What happens is that the bands take their allocation and divide it into two pieces. The biggest piece is what they use to limit their walleye catch during walleye spawning. But they set aside a small portion (1,000 lb this year) that can be used for walleye that are accidentally caught while netting perch. The perch fishing general occurs about two weeks after walleye fishing, and that is what is going on now.

    We do not regulate any of the band’s fishing activities, but we do monitor portions of it.”

    Sad, just sad.

    The answer to everyone’s question “How do these people still have state jobs?” Unfortunately due to the court ordered management plans it is not our DNR’s job to manage the netting so by not doing anything they are doing what they’re supposed to be doing… Which is what makes me sad.

    roosterrouster
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    The "IGH"...
    Posts: 2092
    #1539177

    Will…Who monitors it then? Is it the Tribe’s (tribal officials…) job to self-monitor it thus the honor system? If so, that’s not so good…

    Will Roseberg
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    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 2121
    #1539191

    Will…Who monitors it then? Is it the Tribe’s (tribal officials…) job to self-monitor it thus the honor system? If so, that’s not so good…

    As I understand it is solely the Great Lakes Indian Fisheries and Wildlife Commission (http://www.glifwc.org/) who is responsible for managing the netting… This includes keeping track of the quotas, issuing permits, etc.

    Not quite the honor system, but it’s also not too much of a stretch to wonder if it really is a case where the fox is watching the hen house.

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